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I've tried to go over this with my dad and uncles a few times, they're all IT professionals.

The theory is essentially that the machines weren't properly secured, they cite some provision of AZ election law that I don't recall precisely which states that if the machines aren't air-gapped the election is invalid and must be rerun.

They think the routers are the proof that the rules were broken and thus will force a revote. When pressed they never can really articulate a specific theory of fraud, just that the rules were broken and they're upset when the rules were broken and their guy lost.

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> some provision of AZ election law that I don't recall precisely which states that if the machines aren't air-gapped the election is invalid and must be rerun

So, we don't need to follow the law?

The law is merely advisory and doesn't require our adherence?

Would you be this unaffected by violations of the law if your guy hadn't won?

We do and sounds like we did.

https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefacts/

> This is false. Maricopa County uses an air-gapped system, meaning its tabulation equipment is never connected to the internet and is completely separated from the Maricopa County network. There are no routers connected to the system and there never have been.

> Two separate federally certified Voting System Testing Laboratories independently confirmed that the system is not connected to the internet. In February 2021, they tested the equipment and found no evidence of internet connectivity. The firms also confirmed that there was not any malicious software or hardware installed on the tabulation equipment.

Audit results: https://www.maricopa.gov/5681/Elections-Equipment-Audit#Resu...

This was literally 1 minute of Googling by the way.

Can we cut it out with the "your guy" stuff? A baseless conspiracy theory is a baseless conspiracy theory no matter which political candidate you support.

In this instance there is no evidence that any law has been broken. Requesting the routers is a fishing expedition based on zero evidence. The equipment has already been tested and proven to not be connected to the internet, if they turn over the routers then "stop the steal" activists will say the hacks are actually hidden in the ethernet cables, or something. This is not an investigation based on facts, it is an attempt to confuse and sow doubt.

Having the router connected to the internet might be against the law, but refusing a request to turn over routers is not a violation of the law.

Do you honestly believe anyone is going to arrest the county board of supervisors?

What do you believe will happen to remedy this?

I'm all for enforcing the law, but I recognize that local authorities are essentially unaccountable to the rest of the nation. I assume that the residents of Maricopa county either support the outcome, are unable or unwilling to change it, or do not care about our civic processes.

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