> However, there are other US Senators who view Turkey as an important NATO ally. One such lawmaker is Victoria Nuland, the undersecretary of state for political affairs..."
That doesn't sound right.
That doesn't sound right.
This was just a comment on the obvious factual inaccuracy of the statement: Victoria Nuland is not a US Senator or "lawmaker".
Turkey is the biggest military ally USA have. Loosing it will be a "before, and after" moment for NATO.
Truly, USA's biggest problem with Turkey is exactly them being such a strong, and prominent military ally, throwing discord in US dominated bloc solely by the fact of its existence.
Points:
1. Turkey's ultimate political alignment is NATO
2. Turkey's current political position can be rationally understood, in comparison to more irate allies, playing their double, triple, quadruple games. It has tensions with NATO, and US, but not because its ultimate alignment, and commitment to Atlantic Bloc changed.
3. Turkey is a way more useful military ally US have than any EU NATO member. Both in military strength, and level of commitment.
4. Turkey is the sole country US can consider a real military ally among dozens of "ally" countries which USA buys with billions of dollars per year in defence aid: Saudis, Egyptians, Emiratis, Pakistanis, Jordanians, Israelis... they are all basically a $100B a year black hole for defence aid.
5. Turkey is the only non-white country with commitment to hosting American nuclear weapons, and other serious defence assets after South Korea, and Japan quit. This is currently American's sole proof of not seeking a "rich white world alliance" as its foreign policy vision — hugely symbolic.
The US throws a lot of money at the middle east because it doesn't understand it at all and has no coherent plan. Fortunately some of the money is thrown back at individual politicians.
1. With Erdogan, or without Erdogan, it's very unlikely Turkey will ever find any solace with anybody South, or East of their border. The article 5 will remain central to its defence if anything nasty comes up from the South, and the only option if Russia will attack them from the East.
2. Turkey will gain nothing from changing alignment to some distant foreign power.
It is already a strong military power, and it barely ventured past their immediate vicinity in Syria. It cannot really confront Greece, with foreign power backing, or not, because of NATO.
3. The West will continue tolerate Turkey because they really have no alternative to Turkey, and vice-versa.
2. Russia and Arab nations treat Türkiye with far more respect than Europe and Amerika
3. As çaydoğan gets more desperate before the 2023 elections, all bets are off.
Would that not be the UK?
Two-fold advantage in conventional airforce + their new drone force.
6 fold advantage in tanks. 2 fold advantage in armour overall.
3 fold advantage in trained personnel
When it comes to land forces, Turkey is many times more powerful than UK.
> in 2010 the Turkish Armed Forces had an active strength of around 402,000 active personnel, consisting of 77,000 professionals and 325,000 conscripts
Don't get me wrong, I'd be delighted if the roles were reversed and it was instead Turkey who had the 5th biggest military expenditures in the world and the UK were around 20th - there's far more productive things we could be spending our money on.
Conscript training is still better than no training at all.
In case of a serious military conflict, no NATO country other than USA will be able to avoid some degree of popular mobilisation.
- non secular government
- military adventurism
- buying Russian s400 whatever that was
- limited effectiveness in sophisticated asymmetrical insurgents wars
- limited effectiveness against sophisticated military, two generations behind fleet of f16
Turkey is a major threat to basically all its neighbors, and if their greed will continue to rise (and there is no reason to think otherwise with current leadership), Europe should consider it as a bigger threat than Russia with Putin.
The relatively brief period when Turkey wanted to have peace with Europe is gone. I hope EU countries will realize that military spending needs to be increased and armies put back in good shape. It would be huge waste of money in other times but these days peace seems more and more fragile. Bullies only understand strength talk.
Turks cant even visit the EU withoit showing their entire Cvs (notarized and translated), financial statements, proof of Turkish housing and proof of education.
Meanwhile westerners only have to use an app to get a $20 evisa.
The eu are incredibly hypocritical when it comes to Türkiye.
It wasnt so long ago that England tried to steal all of Turkiye, luckily ataturk whooped their colonial asses and sent them home with their limey tails between their legs.
> Meanwhile westerners only have to use an app to get a $20 evisa.
Gee, I wonder why.
Uhh, Turks are from the caucuses.
I think you mean non-christian / non-jewish