Are Covid Restrictions the New TSA?
richardhanania.substack.com
richardhanania.substack.com
In contrast, we’re in the middle of a pandemic which has claimed millions of lives, and measures like masks and vaccination are cheap and have minimal downsides. There is no credible reason to believe anyone will continue restrictions when the pandemic is finally over. Vaccination gives us a clear exit path and a robust treatment will only accelerate that.
The author’s argument for children is a similar bit of emotion pretending to be reason. Children die less frequently, although Delta is hitting harder, but long-term complications are nothing to be cavalier about simply because the scientific evidence doesn’t support your lifestyle preferences. Going by the published stats and 50M under 12, letting COVID run rampant still means thousands of dead children (just in the United States), hundreds of thousands of kids with cases severe enough to require hospitalization, and at least an equal number with long-term effects we’re just starting to study. Wearing a mask and only dining outdoors for a few months longer seems like a much better option.
Otherwise what is the endgame? Hermetically sealing every man, woman, child and dog? Life is risky and we all have a lot more medical problems than is commonly acknowledged.
EDIT And until airline travel is basically banned, it isn't like the powers-that-be are truly serious about stopping the spread. The delta variant wasn't unexpected and can't teleport, it crossed borders in a travelling host.
If too many don't want to, this unfortunately isn't enough. Unvaccinated are a danger to others who can't be vaccinated (children under current rules, people with weak immune system) and where it for whatever reason failed (happend with other vaccines, not sure how likely with mRNA) Thus "vaccine sceptics" don't impact only themselves but can cause effects on others (and yeah, "children aren't hospitLized" but suffer from LongCovid ...)
And people with weak immune systems are living in constant danger anyway. They have weak immune systems.
Being obese makes you more susceptible to most communicable diseases, colds, and flus, yet I don't see anyone calling for Doritos to be banned and those with a BMI over 30 to be restricted from participating in society.
At some point, you have to take personal responsibility. You cannot offload every single one of your personal health concerns on to the rest of the population.
There is also a big difference between making sugary drinks expensive/banned and locking people that consume sugary drinks into their houses.
In the end its always battle between two sides. The winer get to decide the rules.
I'm not from the US but this also a very good sum up why the US will never ever have universal health care
Other behaviour does not cost any business money. People being obese makes businesses money, so why would they fund propoganda to stop it?
Leave obesity, what about water pollution? Do we still remember the events portrayed in movies like Darkwater and documentries like "What lies upstream"? How CDC just stood by while an entire area of human population were being subject to toxic water and produce getting cancer and other serious health issues..
After nearly 5 decades after the events shown in the movie DarkWaters, PFOA is still unregulated in many developing countries.
Where is the health agencies that so want to "save lives", doing something about it. F*k the whole lot of them!
Unvaccinated are a huge risk to the perception that being vaccinated is better option. Bret Weinstein talks about it in their podcast. If most people are vaccinated, then the vaccinated cannot be easily compared against the unvaccinated. So if just in case the vaccine didn't work as expected, it would be very clear by comparing these two populations. Which could be why the push to vaccinate everyone.
Otherwise yeah those are good points.
How far to enforce this and where the limit is and how to balance the different rights is a big debate happening on which I didn't make any claim.
"You all can get vaccinated" however isn't enough, if nobody is being vaccinated. On a vaccination rate of 95% restrictions can't be upheld anymore as well. Where the point is between those I don't know.
I wrote:
> Being obese makes you more susceptible to most communicable diseases, colds, and flus
I didn't say an obese person can infect others with obesity. I said they make it more likely that others will get infected with communicable diseases, colds, and flus.
Exactly the same situation with the vaccinated and COVID.
The discussion here was about COVID and need for restrictions and restrictions come from the infectious nature.
An obese individual poses more risks to others than a non-obese individual. They are more susceptible to every disease, which means that if you interact with them in a public place, you are placed more at risk. Obesity itself is also starting to be deemed socially contagious.
> TUESDAY, Jan. 23, 2018 (HealthDay News) -- Living in a neighborhood with a high rate of obesity might raise the odds that you and your children will become plus-sized, too.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/obesity/news/20180123/is-obesity-...
For a child, which can't be vaccinated currently, a single contact with a single infected person can cause an infection and consequences.
Quite different for me.
And yes, obesity is bad and we need ways to delay with it (while for the article, i wonder a bit about cause and effect, but I don't wa t to debate this in this thread)
An obese person is more likely to have a communicable disease. Coming into contact with them can cause an infection. This is no different than COVID.
Are you for banning obese people from public spaces? I fail to see the difference.
And yes, I am for encouraging healthy lifestyle (while that alone isn't enough as there are genetical predeterminations etc.)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/05/11/...
> it has been clearly illustrated that obese patients are potentially more vulnerable to COVID-19 and more contagious than lean patients
https://www.rcpjournals.org/content/clinmedicine/20/4/e109
> Due to prolonged viral shedding, quarantine in obese subjects should likely be longer than normal weight individuals.
It goes both way, mandatary vaccine don't impact only themselves but can cause effects on others.
It certainly impact people who do not want to be vaccinated.
So Covid is here, we will all get it at some point, there's nothing we can do about that anymore. Countermeasures will not stop that. The only point to some countermeasures is in specific locations where the unvaccinated are getting hit hard an putting a burden on healthcare systems. But that should be targeted and brief, and only to protect other people that need healthcare services. The unvaccinated that have the option to be vaccinated have made their choice.
I'd much rather be in the "herd immunity" timeline, but here we are.
It boggles my mind how people think governments will ever give back power, once acquired. It doesn't work that way.
I wish articles wouldn't start out right away by broadcasting their black-and-white side-taking (the evidence here being the implication that there is no reason to control the spread of COVID among children if they have less severe symptoms on average).
"Covid theater" is as apt a description of so much of public policy this last year as "security theater" was of so much post 9-11 horseshit. It's all kabuki meant to show how well you dance with your tribe.
This is true for jobs where there’s a meaningful risk: when I worked a research institute, I had mandatory vaccines which they provided for anyone with access to the labs, even the IT people. They aren’t allowed to ask for your medical history in most cases (military pilots, etc. have exemptions where it’s a job requirement) but they can require proof of vaccination as long as it doesn’t include medical details.
We kinda-sorta care about 600,000 deaths and counting around the country... enough to ruin small businesses, but little enough to eventually relent and spread COVID more... and I guess see-saw periodically while people bitch and moan about wearing a mask. :D
Anyhow, anyone who advocates for defunding schools instead of advocating for fixing them thinks that capitalism works, so it shouldn't surprise us that the author would suggest that the logical consequence of A is Q.