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seems like a really long lead time to get 20K devices manufactured, but I'm not in the hardware world. Is this normal?

Covid and chip shortages prob

Yeah, and I bet it’s even harder if you’re a new player to the space without established relationships.

Playdate's a collab with Teenage Engineering, who should at least be able to grease a few wheels for Panic.

Their stuff is so cute. Love that there's such a forward thinking engineering shop still out there, even if most of their stuff isn't for me.

They talk about this in their podcast. Malaysia has its own pandemic, and has had to slow the manufacturing down at times.

The Malaysian relationship is thanks to TE though, but that relationship can't make Magic happen

It's long to get 20k devices manufactured, but it's definitely normal for getting the first 20k devices manufactured.