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how's college admission discrimination relevant to employer discrimination?

It’s a good point of comparison, because it’s a much bigger deal. A 9% lower callback rate, concentrated in the most marginal candidates, won’t have as big an effect on your life as college acceptance.

I'd agree if the alternative is not going to college at all.

White Americans attend college at a lower rate than African-Americans when they have the same IQ. I suspect that’s good for whites and bad for blacks, for the average college student.

> White Americans attend college at a lower rate than African-Americans when they have the same IQ. I suspect that’s good for whites and bad for blacks, for the average college student.

That's an interesting claim - you gotta source for that?

I’m not really a source memorizer, sorry. I think at 117 IQ it was 50% and 67% respectively (in some past year). It’s probably tough to google too. But you could look at overall post-secondary attendance rates and compare against 12th grade literacy proficiency rates to see the same picture.

I'm not sure if that exact statistic is listed in his recent book, but a very similar one is... IQ by occupation by race.

Charles Murray's "Facing Reality". It includes many tables of statistics that may interest you.

Note that despite a lot of anger toward him, I've read several of his books, and he goes to great lengths to state that he doesn't believe we should discriminate against people based on their race. I highly recommend reading his books rather than listening to commentary about them.

Not many jobs going out there that don't require some kind of degree these days. University admission is a necessary step for job acquisition in anything but unskilled labor positions.

yeah, but I'm not sure how discrimination at extremely elite schools is relevant to broad sector industry discrimination.

don't get me wrong, discrimination is bad, but let's not act as if discrimination in getting into Harvard is in any way comparable to not being able to get a callback at McDonalds because you're black (the food industry had the highest white/black callback discrimination according to Figure 9 in the paper).

Supply of eligible candidates comes from universities. Any discrimination at that stage certainly has an impact on the pipeline.

i'm not following you.

You don't want to.

sure I do - that's why I said I didn't follow.

I don't think it's anything other than a somewhat-related and interesting situation. People downvoting are reading too far into it.

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