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Tesla is the big fish here. If Uber has one instance, then given the size of their program, Tesla may have hundreds.

Thing is, it wasn't just one incident, it was just one incident that resulted in a death.

When Ubers started self-driving it took just a few hours before there were videos on twitter and youtube of them driving right though red lights without a care in the world.

Uber: 1 death and halted the program

Tesla: many deaths, no halt, no improvement in the program. See: phantom braking

Let's not give them too much credit here. I think Uber's halt had more to do with Uber's change in CEO and the indictment of the guy who ran their self-driving car program. Plus the fact that it was a giant money sink with no short-term return being run in a company that has never been profitable and can no longer raise infinite investor money.

I don't think it matters whether or not you think Uber was acting responsibly or reflexively. The point is their program is done while Tesla's, which has seen far more fatalities, continues unabated.

It may not matter to you, but it definitely matters to me and to my point about professionals acting professionally. Uber is not a good example of responsible self-regulation; it's instead about them getting reined in by other circumstances.

I'd expect the FTC to get involved before NHTSA. Tesla's marketing is fraudulent.

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