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Colorado is paying social media influencers to tout Covid-19 vaccines

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At this point it would be far more effective to just say there is a vaccine shortage. Stop paying people to take it, stop making a big deal about, stop begging.

Just start shipping them to other countries, and declare a shortage here. The remaining people that want it will get it, the people that don’t, they’re lost to you. There aren’t going to get it the bigger deal you make.

Actual FDA approval would help also. But really… on no topic should anyone be taking social media influencer’s medical opinions on anything even this.

Maybe this works, maybe it doesn't, but I'd think the contingent of unvaccinated people who are intentionally avoiding vaccination are going to see this story and think, "Why would they be spending so much time and money trying to convince us to get the vaccine? Now I really think the vaccine has mercury/5G/mind control, etc."

I agree that it’s a bad look when the influencers don’t disclose this.

They should have done it like the gov does PSAs. Get the word out, evangelize, and realize that some people for their own reasons will willfully remain “pagan” and and there is little you can do to convert them.

Heard a good take on this by Matt Christman: what, of any value, is ever given away in this country for free? Americans are so used to being forced to pay out the nose for any quality health product that the vaccine being truly effective and freely available, let alone 'pushed' in some sense, sets off alarm bells in people used to being ripped off in one way or another.

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

The thing that "stupid people" often wonder in this argument is this:

Why are the unvaxxed being blamed for endangering society when the vaccinated spread the virus too?

That person would be acting as if only a binary "100% spreads virus" vs "100% doesn't spread virus" is possible/relevant.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...

> A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.

What I don't get is this this "growing body of evidence" does not seem to apply when it comes to things like Ivermectin, where they don't consider anything other than some high quality RCT, and reject all observational data.

But when it comes to vaccines, they are so OK to make suggestions (to put it mildly) based on observational data..

I don't think I've encountered vaccine suggestions based on observational data. Can you give an example?

I mean, I think there are no RCTs done for supporting the following claims.

1. That vaccines will reduce transmission, even when it does not prevent infection.

2. That vaccines will reduce hospitalisations even when it does not prevent infection.

Here is a scientific study on the vaccine using observational data:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/study-electromagnetism-vaccina...

No offence but "Vaccines will make you magnetic!" is not a scientific study, it is Loony tunes. Looking at the front page of that site, yes, it seems a total batshit-factory, right down to the mention of 'Great Reset' and "Governments Are Lying to You the People".

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch

It is a loony tunes experiment that ANYONE can reproduce. Even on themselves. What do you think people will wonder when they test it out and find out that magnets stick to them?

AND -

The thought I had today on the way to work was a what if: If the vaccinated are really becoming electromagnetic, how would they be affected by an EMP burst?

The "magnet/metal sticking to skin" trick has been around for a long time. See for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVWMY8EZCA

Comes down to the angle and stickiness of skin.

> If the vaccinated are really becoming electromagnetic

But they aren't; that's as nutty as a fruitcake. You are exhibiting exactly zero critical thinking ability.

if you're already going down this route why not just be direct. I assume most unvaccinated people right now are younger, so just give them 100 bucks cash on hand if they get vaccinated

at least you're not funneling it through these marketing agencies then

Yay large government budgets.... aided by billions given to states via the stimulus. Meanwhile, inflation

If this helps at all, it easily pays for itself in reduced hospital fees and improved economic activity.

Michigan also has paid influencers. Not sure whom is paying them.

> But the cost of the effort — and the identities of the influencers — remained undisclosed until now.

This implies the influencers did not disclose that those messages were government-sponsored. Is secret government-funded astroturfing legal?

Meanwhile I posted this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxqC9SiRh8 here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27941820

And some people here have promptly flagged it for some reason.

@dang can we please give this a second chance. I think these people should be heard and acknowledged, if they want it. I think we, as a society, owe them at least that. And if possible, for the medical community to figure out a way to help them.

And I wonder why the companies are not providing support for these people. Does the agreement of the trial include a clause that deny them medical support if they get injured by the vaccine during the trial?

In some countries they pay them to be Presidents and Prime Ministers.

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