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The Guardian (UK), which made much of Assange's revelations currently has these two phrases as part of it's campaign to raise funds.

"With the funding of more than 1.5 million readers in 180 countries, the Guardian remains open to all and fiercely independent, and can continue chasing the truth." (Front page promo)

"Because of our independence, we are able to investigate boldly, putting the truth ahead of the agenda of an owner, investors or shareholders. And because we are reader-funded we have been able to keep our journalism open for all to read, so when important stories like this come along, everyone gets to read them." Katherine Viner - Editor-in-Chief

Katherine Viner is a liar.

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>Katherine Viner is a liar.

Am I missing something here?

After reading the article I've been unable to see how this relates (or necessarily is correct, but that's another matter) to the link.

Could you please elaborate?

Their actions in Wikileaks' case and subsequently show they are not acting in the public interest, therefore this public appeal is false and deliberately misleading, and this is known to and actively supported by Katherine Viner.

The Guardian promoted everything Assange said / did.

Then all of a sudden The Guardian forget all about Julian.

Their coverage has been pathetic.

Why?

Because the UK Govt will have told them to Shut Up.

And it's not just The Guardian.

It's the Telegraph, Times, Independent, Sun, Mail and more.

So when Katherine Viner spouts forth that:

"the Guardian remains open to all and fiercely independent, and can continue chasing the truth"

That is bollocks.

"Because of our independence, we are able to investigate boldly, putting the truth ahead of the agenda of an owner, investors or shareholders."

Also bollocks.

Viner lies.

I think it's more likely that in light of the #MeToo movement, it became untenable for them to defend an accused rapist, regardless of if he was innocent or not.

That should not be happening in a healthy, democratic society.

If it does then it means anyone can be silenced based solely on an accusation of an action highly despised and criminalized by society.

That sounds like a load of baseless accusations. Printing WikiLeaks leaks doesn't mean they have to defend Assange for his behavior. Assange is also a well established liar.

The Guardian posted this article, claiming WikiLeaks released the entire cache of cables unredacted: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-publ...

This was true but revealed in a way that was purposely misleading and to deflect from the Guardian's role in putting intelligence workers at risk. That is, the Guardian's poor OpSec had made all those cables available to anyone without any kind of protections in place. (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20869-assange-why-wik...)

The Guardian does not protect it's sources. The Guardian does not own up to it's mistakes. The Grauniad does not spellcheck.

Minor, but since you did it twice and criticize the Guardian's spelling .. https://www.dictionary.com/e/its-vs-its/

They continue to employ Luke Harding which seems mystifying.

Maybe it's a really subtle false flag? The spooks have them where they want them so they can't publish the truth meaning they have to publish ridiculous lies which get publicised, then fall over due to contrary evidence and so actually undermine the state's case while seeming to support it? This comically bad example they haven't even bothered to try and salvage their reputation with corrections. Merely added "sources say" in a submarine edit to the headline.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/27/manafort-hel...

Glad to see I'm not the only one who finds those taglines galling.

Lost my last shred of respect/hope for the Guardian when they did their level best to smear Corbyn in favour of BJ.

Around 2015 they got suddenly and noticably (even) worse, axing Pilger and others like him.

Even before that, their ME coverage was savagely lacking.

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