We talk about ethics in gaming journalism, and oppose censorship and the woke mob.
It's sad that some people decided to be harassers in the name of GG, but that is practically ancient history. If you think that's still true, you're part of the problem, because you believe everything the media and Twitter tells you.
EDIT: So apparently I was wrong that it was specifically about the size of the butt. The headline is "There's now a mod to fix Miranda's butt in the Mass Effect remaster, for anyone that cares" and the screenshot is a big butt. I took "fixed Miranda's butt" to mean they fixed the appearance of it. The issue was instead that gratuities shots of said butt were removed not that the butt itself was changed. I don't think that changes the fundamental issue, but I apologize for my lack of ethics in games journalism.
The mod was to remove that censorship.
But it is interesting what your initial assumptions about it were.
Please learn to read. I already corrected the person who misunderstood that it's not a mod about increasing ass size.
For what it's worth, I looked through that subreddit's discussion of the article of this HN thread, and the dominant strain of opinions tended to be either "woke company is a bunch of hypocrites, ha ha ha" or "why are you believing what women say." I didn't see the other thread in question, but there definitely seems to be a very strong anti-woke-ism and misogynistic strain in general to the subreddit.
This comment not only fails to demonstrate any sexism or misogyny, but makes me think that the sub has a valid point about inconsistent and unjust denigration of gaming.
People can do whatever they want in their own home. I'm not complaining about that. I am complaining about how their complaints are voiced in public, usually in an aggressive and derogatory manner. Have fun, enjoy the butt, but I am going to laugh at you if you whine in public that "the evil woke mob forced companies to remove the butt" and I will get angry if you start harassing people over it.
>If people want to alter the remastered edition to more closely resemble the original 2010 release of Mass Effect 2, that doesn't strike me as sexist or misogynist at all.
The more context you remove the less sexist and misogynistic it becomes. No one can argue with making a remake more closely resembles the original. It starts to get iffy when you add the context that the change is to add more gratuitous ass shots. It becomes clearly sexist and misogynistic when the addition of those shots is celebrated in a community that already has a reputation for sexism and misogyny.
I think your last sentence is really demonstrative of what I'm saying: people harbor a highly prejudiced view of gaming as, "a community that already has a reputation for sexism and misogyny" and are making judgements based on this prejudice. I have no doubt that you earnestly believe this butt-mod is sexist, but the fact that you harbor this belief is precisely what leads me to feel that this group's complaints are valid.
>I think your last sentence is really demonstrative of what I'm saying: people harbor a highly prejudiced view of gaming as, "a community that already has a reputation for sexism and misogyny" and are making very skewed judgements.
To be clear, I am not saying this about the general gaming community. I am saying this about the gamergate community. Surely not everyone in that community is sexists or misogynist, but I don't think you can legitimately argue that there is not some sizable portion of that community that is highly sexists and misogynist.
That context and context in general is important because it helps to establish the motivation behind their actions. It is just like how saying the exact same thing to your wife and a random women on the street could be loving in the former context and sexist in the latter.
Then by the same logic, the sexualized mod doesn't count either. They were authored by the same person. Otherwise, this is yet another double standard: the sexualized mod counts despite not being linked by the author, yet the de-sexualized mod doesn't count because it want linked by the author.
I don't think it's productive to drag this out any longer, but as an outsider to this situation you come off as highly prejudiced and it makes me sympathize more with the people you're calling sexist and misogynist over a mod.
The author doesn't matter. I am not criticizing the author as I don't know the author's intent.
I am criticizing the specific reaction of the KotakuInAction community to the work of the author the same way I might criticize how some people celebrate American History X for reasons that are not aligned with the filmmaker's intent.
Gamergate started because a dude spread lies about his ex-gf. Not a single one of his accusations regarding her behavior or the behavior of employees of gaming websites was true.
It was always, always about harassing women. It still is. The main places where Gamergate is still discussed are chock full of misogynist bullshit.
The gaming publishing industry does have conflict of interest issues, but Gamergate approached and approaches the problem from an entirely wrong-headed point of view. Criticism of the industry should be entirely detached from the clusterfuck that is Gamergate.
No at some point the leftover people at some point had an about face, and said from now on we don't do harassment anymore and it's only about ethics in journalism.
Let's consider this is true, but why on earth would this new "only about ethics in journalism" movement continue to wear the same GG label, and somehow be surprised (and annoyed) that people still associate the movement with harassment and mysogyny?