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How is not taking monetary advantage of lonely men who most likely never have normal human relationships not immoral? People spending money on these things are not your average Joe's. The whole idea is morally corrupt and onlyfans and the like are doing it on scale now.

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If those men (and women, I am sure) didn't have porn and onlyfans, they might not have anything at all to replace those. I don't think that's immoral. Both parties benefit, even if one benefits more than the other.

This sounds like libertarian talking point about business, I don't think it suits very well into the discussion.

You should get out of your echo bubble. I have a few friends spending on these types of services (and Twitch which seems to have evolved to host soft versions of OF-type content). They're sociable, principled people, who also have many "regular" relationships. It's not a zero-sum affair.

Looks like you're in a bubble yourself. It's well researched who are those men in that trap spending money. They are lonely and miserable, these so called relationships are toxic and take monetary advantage of them. You can't consent into toxic relationships. Your anecdotes don't matter much in the broad sense.

> It's well researched who are those men

Source needed. A quick Google search turned up nothing.

For someone accusing others of anecdotes, you've yet to provide any actual hard scientific data to support your own sweeping claims.

These are adults, they should be allowed to make bad decisions. Saying they "never had normal human relationships" is a bit condescending.

Its not all men. I know women who also spend on these platforms just because they like to support certain creators. They have other normal relationships too.

who defines "normal human relationships", if we don't count various religions? IRL relationships can be just as addictive, toxic and financially perilous.

Taking advantage and having position of power are pretty well defined in current society, these relationships don't have an equal standing between parties.

I think it would be extremely difficult to achieve the scale OnlyFans has without a large number of “average Joe’s”. Your point about the idea being “morally corrupt” shows the true nature of your comment. Just because the practice or service doesn’t match your morals, does not make it immoral. Sex work is the oldest profession, there’s no reason there shouldn’t be a respectable platform for this kind of work.

The whole point of this thread is about how poorly OnlyFans is managing this complex space.

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