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CBL-Mariner – Linux OS for Azure 1P services and edge appliances

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See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27886889 from earlier today

Edit: also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27792366 from earlier.

Funny! I posted on Microsoft's Linux several days ago

Also see: A Look into CBL-Mariner, Microsoft’s Internal Linux Distribution

From 8 days ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27792366

Now all we need is the Linux Subsystem for Windows, to complete the confusing marketing cycle.

Isn't that Wine?

No. Wine stands for Wine Is Not Emacs.

I desperately hope you're having a laugh.

> Wine (originally an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator") is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several POSIX-compliant operating systems

From https://www.winehq.org/about/

I would have assumed Ubuntu, given that they've partnered with them a few times, "deb" is the default Linux download for Edge/Linux, Ubuntu seems to be the default distro for WSL, etc. Surprised it's RedHat based.

Ubuntu is what users want (where "want" is a rather loaded term, it's just the most accessible version for most folks at the moment). Not what enterprise businesses want to resell.

Nah, the single biggest customer is the US Government, and the US Government buys Red Hat. I mean, Uncle Sam will forego machine learning optimizations that ship out of the box in Ubuntu and thus walk away from entire product lines simply because Red Hat has a better STIG. There was no way Microsoft was going to risk that.

This is a distro intended for 1P internal services. Azure heavily uses Ubuntu internally compared to RHEL. Personally I’m curious to see how adoption turns out, because I think you’re right and this would be more likely something customers pick up.

(I work in Azure)

I don't suppose you could tell us what 1P stands for? Top Google hit for Azure 1P is.. this Github repo, followed by the Azure Pricing page then hundreds of sunglasses sales.

First party

1p - first party, meaning other Microsoft teams

STIG?

Security Technical Implementation Guides

But the build instructions are for Ubuntu O_o

I always figured Microsoft partnered with Ubuntu because their saw Red Hat as their real competitor. Kind of like how Walmart uses Azure instead of AWS.

I remember, many years ago, seeing some trade magazin publish an "announcement" of "Microsoft GNU/Linux" as an April fools' joke.

After the last couple of years, this is not as big a surprise as it would have been ten years ago, but back then the idea of Microsoft creating and making publically available their own GNU/Linux distro was really far out. I did not think I'd ever see the day. Next stop: flying pigs!

Wondering if the Surface Duo will use the same kernel for it's Android OS.

Regardless of the reasoning behind this move, it's pleasing to see them acknowledge all of the open source software that made this possible. Amazon could learn something from this.

> originating from the Photon distribution

and all doc is written by Azure VMware.

What's the relationship between MS or CBL-Mariner and VMware?

> and all doc is written by Azure VMware.

I don’t follow what you mean.

>What's the relationship between MS or CBL-Mariner and VMware?

None? Photon is an open source Linux distribution that’s based on fedora. Mariner pulls from photon, fedora, and others. It’s entirely developed by MS.

Photon is developed/managed by VMWare.

https://github.com/vmware/photon

I’m aware, that doesn’t mean they have any direct input into mariner, they’re an upstream that mariner pulls a couple of things from, as well as fedora and others.

It also explains nothing about comment that “all doc is written by azure VMware”.

Azure is a cloud computing service. VMware is a software company owned by Dell. That would be like saying “all doc is written by AWS redhat”.

blog post at https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-released-cbl-mar...

I'm just disappointed it's not called Microsoft Linux NT.

What about Lindows?

Too close to Windows, Microsoft will sue.

This sounds familiar... Isn't there something like this?

Edit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linspire

> In 2002, Microsoft sued Lindows, Inc. claiming the name Lindows constituted an infringement of their Windows trademark. Microsoft's claims were rejected by the court, which asserted that Microsoft had used the term windows to describe graphical user interfaces before the Windows product was ever released, and that the windowing technique had already been implemented by Xerox and Apple Computer many years before.[7]

Edit2

...is that the joke? whoosh

lol yup

it's definitely late here haha

Winix

Winux. Unfortunately, this is taken in several other ways already, according to google.

Aah yes, finally ~

A worthy successor to IBM Linux/2

I'd lobby for Linux for Workgroups if it wasn't taken already: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/20-ye...

Makes sense, LfW 3.11 should be pretty usable. It could be like DOS+WfW, basically Linux kernel + Windows 10/11 GUI.

The best outcome would be achieving the dream of OS/2 -> Workplace OS, with a microkernel and OS-personalities, so running Linux, Windows, or other OS flavours co-existing on a single shared microkernel: one OS to rule them all.

commits are quite old

The entire source code comes from AI code assisted powered macros sourced from copies of existing distros.

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