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> You aren't going to Iraq to change the Iraqis. Just the opposite. we are fighting this war to preserve the principle of "live and let live."

Can we bring this America back?

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The America where we pretend wars aren't about oil never left.

This part of the war was definitely about oil, and the guidebook makes no bones about it. Hitler found the Caucasian oil fields substantially less accessible than he'd hoped. In fact, it was already a lost cause by the time this book was written, which meant the Middle East was far more important to the Germans than it otherwise would have been.

The whole idea was to deny those resources to the enemy and safeguard them for Allied use.

Oh you mean like they liberated the people of Iraq in 2003? yeah North Koreans are really missing out...

And people in Cuba and Hong Kong raise American flags just because the US is an enemy of their State (enemy of my enemy is my friend) not because of "freedom and change".

Please don't take HN threads further into ideological or nationalistic battle. It's repetitive, tedious, and nasty—the things we're trying to avoid here.

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I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - if we were going to liberate North Korea, the point would be largely to let the North Korean citizens live free of their horrifically oppressive government. You just have to distinguish between the culture of a country as defined by the traditions and history of its people and the culture as defined by the government, particularly if the government is a dictatorship. The former is good and should be preserved (generally) while the latter is generally to the detriment of the former.

Please don't take HN threads further into ideological or nationalistic battle. It's repetitive, tedious, and nasty—the things we're trying to avoid here.

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