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Tesla Releases Full Self-Driving Subscription ($199/Month)

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It's one thing to sell "Full Self Driving" with the idea that you are basically preordering and get access for now to something that is level 2 but more advanced than any other level 2 system. I don't know how you sell a subscription to something called "Full Self Driving" that doesn't do that at all.

It kind of kills the fiction that Tesla wasn't selling vaporware and just let people preorder FSD for less than it will cost so that's why its called "Full Self Driving". Now they are literally selling something that doesn't exist. The package does more than auto-pilot, but Tesla is not even close to full self driving regardless of the reality warp field they seem to exist in that puts them plainly behind the majority of the players in the field while their fans think they are the only game in town. They lead only in brazenness, they are the only company willing to deploy something half done to the public with the fine print that you need to monitor/be responsible for your "full self driving" car.

When you search Tesla on HN the second highest article is from FIVE YEARS AGO announcing "All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware" (which wasn't even true since that was back at HW2). I have no idea how anyone still thinks this company or Elon have any credibility, especially on FSD.

More like Dealership-Driven than Self-Driving, at that price. I cant imagine owning such an expensive car, loaded with sensors and computers, only to be told using the computers is going to cost that much.

I don't drive a lot, but my car cost $4000 in 2007, and has $5000 in maintenance put into it, and I pay a bit over $600 a year on insurance. Registration & city parking is ~$150/year. This service is significantly more expensive than my total cost to own my vehicle.

The average price of a new vehicle in the USA now starts at ~$40k, so your comparison isn't particularly relevant

And in most cases, your non-Tesla cruise control in any modern vehicle will do as much for you as Tesla's paid version will: Lane-keeping, speed matching, and crash avoidance are all pretty standard these days, and since you have to pay attention when a Tesla is driving, just like with cruise control, there's hardly any difference to the user.

We own a 2008 Ford Fiesta, and renting a midrange 2020 Corolla on our last trip to the States was amazing - set the cruise control to maximum desired speed, felt like the car pretty much did the rest when outside of cities. Since it was a midrange Corolla with no extravagant promises of self-driving, I paid a normal amount of attention.

Exactly, your freaking rental Toyota can pretty much do what a Tesla does, for a lot less money and a lot less broken promises that it won't run you into a wall...

Somehow I hoped it would be included when you pay $62k (in NL) for your Model 3. Think the base model with FSD is like $72k. I should check if other brands also have it as add-on

I’m only lightly following these announcements, but wasn’t the upfront purchase needed because that decided if certain hardware was installed or not? I must be mistaken.

Looks like you can get the FSD computer installed for $1500: https://twitter.com/JohnPConnell/status/1416218624109522948

How much to uninstall fantom braking?

Is Tesla liable for an FSD accident?

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