I think the squeamishness about AI as it becomes more and more capable will be interesting to define why we are feeling it. The machine is going to be capable of (and consequently used to do) these things whether you like it or not.
I think the squeamishness about AI as it becomes more and more capable will be interesting to define why we are feeling it. The machine is going to be capable of (and consequently used to do) these things whether you like it or not.
> “If you watch the film, other than that line you mentioned, you probably don’t know what the other lines are that were spoken by the A.I., and you’re not going to know,” Neville told the reviewer, Helen Rosner. “We can have a documentary-ethics panel about it later.”
...or we can have it sooner, on Twitter, and you'll get excoriated, and rightly so. I don't care if they train an AI to imitate Bourdain rapping the third verse from Modern Major General, it's a free country, but you have to be honest about it. You can't call yourself a documentarian and get cutesy about the authenticity of the material.
Perhaps we'll see a mea culpa later on, where he will say he misjudged the amount of outrage, which is not a real apology, so lots of commenters will jump on that thereby providing even more publicity.
Creating an outrage for some publicity of a documentary just doesn't sit right with me. Yes, it is an effective step or publicity stunt, but how does people don't have that inner voice? (I don't know what to call it) that tells them that this isn't what they should be doing without proper consent of the family members and without any disclosure over what is real and what isn't.
A conscience.
[1] https://twitter.com/OttaviaBourdain/status/14158894550057164...
This is the "fact". Half of it is a caveat to take it with a grain of salt.
I should hope people's ex-wives don't get authority over their lives later (unless it's related to kids/shared-assets/etc).
The family giving consent is way more relevant.
That's incorrect. They were still married when he died and most of Bourdain's estate was left to their daughter with Ottavia overseeing it. "The family," in this case, is Ottavia and Ariadne Bourdain.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/07/06/anthon...
> estranged wife Ottavia Busia-Bourdain
He left her in charge of the trust/etc because she's still the mother of his child, and therefore a major part of his life, but they weren't together.
Creating a digital voice model of abraham lincoln and then using it for ??? is not.
All of this is being done for profit means (the orville redenbacher, fast furious, star wars).
Just because we can doesn't mean we shouldn't stop and think if we should.
If I’m honest humans have never done the moral thinking, we largely just middle through and hope to get away with it.
John Lennon's voice doing an ad for Vox amps seems in poor taste.
the Bourdain documentary we're talking about was created in order to generate profit; it has box-office showings and advertisement campaigns.
A documentary is nice, but I fail to see how it's less of a product than Vox amplifiers, aside from some shallow altruism like "We're spreading the ideas of Bourdain", which could be done entirely without a profit scheme.
No, the 'for profit' nature of this venture is just the amoral cherry-on-top.
My real problems with this type of thing are many-fold :
1) Textual messages are often times created in such a way as to be convenient rather than to be read. Inflection and tone mostly go out the window when written out, so people tend to use lots of hyperbole and metaphor to better convey nuance like sarcasm -- this can quickly make someone who is eloquent in-person look moronic in-text, but people close to the individual know better and ignore the email parlance.
2) There is a level of artistry and creative interpretation when deciding how an AI voice generates text-to-speech. What samples are used, how is the phrase tempo'd, environmental interpretation, etc. The end product is very much not-Bourdain , but it's sold to people watching the documentary as Bourdain, so it's assumed that he said these things.. which leads to :
3) Personally I believe that the post-death 'image' of anyone should only be manipulated or altered by third-party testimonial and record-level evidence.
An unaware person watching this documentary would come out of the theater with the notion that Bourdain said things that he never said.
A third party is using Bourdain's own image to sell persona/image changes to the public on his own behalf, post-death -- I have major ethical and moral qualms with this idea, even with all the express permission of those around him and his family.
Regardless of who these people are that gave permission -- they're not him. The voice/image/actions of your own persona should probably never be tampered with by someone else -- even the closest people to him can't begin to know what he'd say internally, even if they may have felt that they had a good grasp.
Now, sure, we can always argue that a celebrities image is likely sold to the companies managing them -- and I would have to agree. Legally, sure, his image likely isn't his own property, but I don't have to agree with the methodology on an ethical level, and I have a real hard time imaging that I ever will.
>Do you think the same documentary would be better if it didn’t have advertising or box-office showings?
Yes. I am less against the manipulated and possibly perjured conjuration of fake dead-people's voices when someone isn't making a profit.
(I detected a bit of snark in your question, so I replied with a bit of snark -- but it's an honest answer. Apologies if you didn't mean for it to be interpreted that way -- another incongruity in text-based-talk :) )
Just one example of the prickliness of this with the for-profit aspect in scope : an AI generated likeness of a famous voice says "Eat Snickers!" , after the family of the original voice gives all the permissions in the world to whoever may want to use it.
Tons of royalties are accrued.
Who is given the royalties?
so, tl;dr, here's the point I feel most strongly about : An unaware person watching this documentary would come out of the theater with the notion that Bourdain said things that he never said, in a way that he perhaps never would have said them. This technology, along with others like it, creates a situation in which a third party can manipulate the persona of a long-dead person in a first-person way, thus circumventing a lot of the trust checks that exist with regards to the perceived image of the now-dead.
I don't think this particular example is damaging, even if I think it's unethical -- however I do think that it's an indicator of things to come, and I believe that it is going to be heavily abused until some regulatory body makes lots of rules and regulations regarding the depiction of image of those that are no longer able to fight their own libel cases.
Most direct and honest answer I can give you :
It's (considered by many) unethical to profit from human death and suffering.
It's (considered by many) extra unethical to assume you can speak for the dead.
It's (considered by many) extra-extra unethical to try to hood-wink an audience into thinking that your Mechanical Turk is the real-deal.
This particular 'valuable art' we're discussing has flavors from all three of those types of behavior.
Impersonating someone like Lincoln in a car commercial is one thing, but it’s another is someone presented an impersonation as their actual voice in a documentary.
It’s also complicated by the fact that the AI voice is trained on his likeness and dubious as if the reproduction is a new creation or something else. Similar to the debate about GitHub Copilot.
1,000 Elvis' likenesses disagree.