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> So much of the FIRE discourse is about not working that many don’t realize that they’re going to be extremely bored with 16 hours to fill every day.

People are different, I suppose. Perhaps not in FIRE circles but this is certainly discussed regarding 'normal' retirement, and I don't feel the same way at all. I'm in my twenties, and honestly think I could fill the rest of my life more than once with non-work. Especially if I'm allowed to get paid for doing what I consider to be hobbies rather than work as part of that. At least one of those lifetimes could just be reading!

Do you really find yourself reaching the end of a weekend and thinking Oh thank God I have work tomorrow, I'm so bored?

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Agreed. To me, FIRE would mean the freedom to spend every day working on problems I think are important and learning stuff that I think is interesting, whether or not a company agrees with me. All with the knowledge that I can stop working at noon or take a month off whenever I need to!

Sounds like you would enjoy academic life!

already tried that and it didn't go so well ;)

Acadrmic like mostly just replaces the company deciding what's important with a grant funding agency.

> Do you really find yourself reaching the end of a weekend and thinking Oh thank God I have work tomorrow, I'm so bored?

The comment above you is channeling the common need to say anything, no matter what it is, in response to an attack on tradition. This is why people in Oregon hear about a proposal to make pumping your own gas legal and respond "but what if somebody doesn't know how?", as if it were difficult to know what would happen in that case.

I realise this is a tangent, but what is 'pumping your own gas'? (And if not clear from that answer, why do people in Oregon specifically object? Not from the US.)

In the United States, most adults outside dense (or well-planned) cities own their own gas (petrol) powered vehicle. In most places, you go to a gas (petrol) station to refill the tank. In some states, it's illegal (for liability reasons) to do this refilling yourself. An attendant has to come around, collect payment, and refill the tank for you.

Oh! I see, thank you. I was thinking if it's something like methane harvesting like the moped art project on the front page, why would that be Oregon-specific, ha.

Here in the UK (we don't call it gas, so that threw me off, and) not 'pumping your own' is unheard of - payment either self serve at the pump (in the last ~15y anyway, since 'chip & PIN' I suppose), or inside.

> Here in the UK (we don't call it gas, so that threw me off, and) not 'pumping your own' is unheard of - payment either self serve at the pump (in the last ~15y anyway, since 'chip & PIN' I suppose), or inside.

This is also true almost everywhere in the US. Except that we do call it gas. (The word is not directly related to "gas", the phase of matter; it's short for "gasoline", which appears to have originated as a brand name.)

The fact that pumping your own is legal everywhere without any problems doesn't prevent people in Oregon from forecasting dire calamities if the law of Oregon were to change.

Pumping your item gas just means putting fuel in your vehicle yourself instead of letting an attendant do it for you. You're not allowed to do it yourself in Oregon and New Jersey (with, I believe, some exceptions to ensure people can still acquire fuel in circumstances where it's unreasonable or impossible to have an employee to do it for you.)

All the gas stations in OR are full-service, that is, an employee of the gas station will fill your gas tank for you.

I think that's literally about putting the gas line into your tank and pressing the trigger...

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