The irrational hatred of FP is still there, to the point of the absurdity of implementing a hobbled procedural version of pattern matching!
It is bordering on insane.
The irrational hatred of FP is still there, to the point of the absurdity of implementing a hobbled procedural version of pattern matching!
It is bordering on insane.
Pattern matching took so long because it was extremely hard to find that compromise, and I actually think they did an okay job. No, it won’t cover every case, but it will also cover the important ones.
x = match y:
case 0: "zero"
case 1: "one"
case x:
y = f(x)
y+y
print(x)
it can require semicolons or parentheses or even braces somewhere if that's necessary to make the grammar work, idc. just don't make me type out `x = ...` a hundred times...(yes, i know you could use the walrus operator in the third case)
(also, if anyone wants to reply with "use a named function because READABILITY", please save it)
In general, breaking Python's syntax rules to introduce block expressions or what you want to call it seems like a steep price to pay for what amounts to syntactic sugar in the end.
However, your proposal actually misses the mark in the same way as the actual match/case does as well. What would be /really/ handy in Python is something like
{'some_key': bind_value_to_this_name} = a_mapping
because it is so common, especially if you're consuming a JSON API. You of course see the myriad problems with the above.I think you should read the PEPs on match/case, these things have actually been considered. One idea was to introduce a keyword to say which variables are inputs and which are outputs, but that also violates the general grammar in a way that isn't very nice.
The accepted solution has warts, I agree, but at some point you just have to accept that you can't reach some perfect solution.
i'm at peace with that :) [1]
> In general, breaking Python's syntax rules to introduce block expressions or what you want to call it seems like a steep price to pay for what amounts to syntactic sugar in the end.
that's your opinion, i disagree! i think Python would be a better, more pleasant to use language if they figured this out. a girl can dream, ok?
> What would be /really/ handy in Python is something like
{'some_key': bind_value_to_this_name} = a_mapping
yes, extending the destructuring syntax would be nice, i agree! but the original question was "Please suggest a pattern matching expression syntax [...]", and the post you were responding to was specifically talking about `match`'s syntax. [2]> I think you should read the PEPs on match/case
i read them when they came out. i'm assuming you're referring to this section from PEP 622:
> "In most other languages pattern matching is represented by an expression, not statement. But making it an expression would be inconsistent with other syntactic choices in Python."
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0622/#id77
i believe Python's statement-orientatation kinda sucks, so to me this is just "things aren't great, let's stay consistent with that". yeah, yeah, "use a different language if you don't like it" etc.
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[1] well, maybe not quite, after all i'm here arguing about it.
[2] `match` uses patterns like the one you described in `case` arms, but is distinct from them. i don't see why dict-destructuring syntax couldn't be added in a separate PEP.
looks like i messed up my PEPs -- i linked to PEP622, which was superseded by PEP635 [1]. the gist of it hasn't changed though.
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[1] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0635/#the-match-statemen..., Ctrl+F "Statement vs. Expression"
I'm less interested in the syntax (will take anything accepted by a modified ast module), more in the semantics.
Here's a syntax I played with in the past:
def area(s: Shape):
pmatch(s):
Circle(c):
pi * c.r * c.r
Rectangle(w, h):
w * h
;;
def times10(i):
x = pmatch(i):
1:
10
2:
20
;;
return x
Two notes: * Had to be pmatch, since match is more likely to run into namespace collision with existing code.
* The delimiter `;;` at the end was necessary to avoid ambiguity in the grammar for the old parser. Perhaps things are different with the new PEG parser.
Code is on my github.https://github.com/santinic/pampy
Clearly it's possible. It's also more ergonomic than PEP 622.