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Did you actually read the article? This individual received hundreds of vile messages and his contacts and family members were harassed.

If you think this represents teenagers in their natural habitat, either that natural habitat is a jail or you’re not aware of how deeply fucked up this is.

Frankly, the little fuckers should all serve time for this. If you wanna act like a gangster from the safety of mommy’s basement, maybe it’s time to meet some real gangsters.

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> If you think this represents teenagers in their natural habitat

The internet? Yes? It's not _many_ teenagers, but there's always some who enjoy threatening others for laughs especially when there's no possible retribution. It's why online gaming with strangers always carries a risk of getting random abuse.

It's the adults who run websites that encourage this culture who should know better.

So, perhaps a minority of teenagers demonstrate extreme antisocial traits? I wish courts were advanced enough to start prosecuting their parents. This has to end and frankly, if it’s going to take silver bracelets and jail time, there are a lot worse uses for incarceration.

These pleas to lock up teenagers and their parents over speech are antisocial. Good thing there is the first amendment to protect you from someone using the state to personally seek revenge for any offense you caused.

How is criminal harassment protected speech? Oh wait, it’s not and this is a garbage argument.

It has to be a credible threat

Mature response, I see you live in Canada so maybe you don't understand free speech, but harassment has to be a pattern reprated by an individual against another individual or deprive someone of access to some resource and a threat needs to be credible, but thanks for weighing in on how you think another countries laws should be interpreted.

https://www.thefire.org/resources/free-speech-freshman-orien...

Wow, thank you for the law class. However your knowledge seems rather selective. Have you ever come across this law?

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCODE-2011-title47/USCO...

I'm more interested in ethics than the law since I'm not a lawyer. Hopefully someone challenges the constitutionality of that law though because it seems overly broad to me.. "The utilization of telecommunication devices without disclosing (one's) IDENTITY to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or who receives the communications." Like you're annoying me over the internet right now and I'd like to have you charged and sentenced to 2 years for federal cyber stalking ?? Lol, that seems appropriate to you? I give up, have a good one buddy.

Well, while you were being more interested in whatever the hell you're interested in, your crew of evil trolls accomplished their goal:

https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99

In good news, the police are involved now. I hope that every single piece of trash involved goes to prison for a very long time.

Yea people that advocate free speech aren't necessarily part of the troll crew, so I don't appreciate that libelous insinuation.

> This individual received hundreds of vile messages and his contacts and family members were harassed.

Yet there is no proof any of this happened. If le evil 4chan hackers truly did any of this, wouldn't you expect his personal info with telephone number to be posted in the 4chan threads?

Yes the state should inflict real violence on them on your behalf over words they typed. /s

Yeah, the state should. Harassment is a crime. You can’t hide behind a screen and commit crimes with impunity.

No one is harassing you. We're already in a precarious enough situation with all the extreme content auto bans. Maybe we could all filter our own content or create some passive barriers, what you've suggested is an over reaction that would inevitability cause more suffering than it prevented - deescalation is what is needed not escalation.

No shit. I've never claimed to be harassed. However, the engineer involved in this thread was. You and others have come onto this site and continued the harassment via telecommunications devices. But please tell me more about how to deescalate conflict, specifically how continuing to gaslight the engineer on another site is a form of de-escalation.

>You and others have come onto this site and continued the harassment via telecommunications devices.

I use this forum everyday because it is a place for civilized communication with strangers, let's keep it that way, eh? This suggestion that I'm gaslighting or cyberstalking you is why the laws that define those terms are incompatible with a Free and Open society. You're just mad and want the government to make you feel better by getting some revenge for you and don't care if that effects other peoples ability to speak in the future about something actually important.

> This individual received hundreds of vile messages

This individual claims they received hundreds of vile messages. We can't confirm that.

So you’re going to keep gaslighting and harassing this engineer over here in HN?? Wow, you’re a troll. Good for you…

I think there is only one person here gaslighting, and it's not the one you think.

And in that case, you don’t know what gaslighting means. Good for you.

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