Well, in some cases (it varies by time and particular ER) they are less-than-useful for things that don’t urgently require stabilization because they are loaded with cases that do require such stabilization, that's what triage is about. And, yes, lots of them are overloaded.
> I am sure we will get billed an astronomical amount for this, but there were no other options. We have good insurance.
If it is possible you will be billed an astronomical amount, you have “good” insurance, if at all, only in the sense of preserving a somewhat greater degree largely meaningless choice of providers for which you will be partially reimbursed.
Good insurance that has bounded, low out of pocket expense for both urgent care and emergency room visits exists.
I don't know how you read that and came to this conclusion. Maybe you aren't a parent?
My experience with ERs over the past 20 years largely mirrors that of GPs. Then when we started going urgent care out of frustration we ultimately got inferior care for my wife that delayed a cancer diagnosis by 3-4 months.
The root of my comment was to defend the availability of ER services against someone who literally suggested that ERs were not needed for anyone who didn’t arrive by ambulance or by police, not to argue the specifics of his child’s case for which neither one of us have any real knowledge.
I am sorry about your wife’s experience. It contributes to making healthcare discussions so challenging, because there are incredibly emotional, stressful, and unfair situations in each direction (people who got billed tens of thousands on one side; people who were not diagnosed on the other) — including in countries with socialized medicine.
I would suggest that your wife would have been best served not by an ER doctor, but by a highly trained and thoughtful primary care physician who could have followed her and understood what she’s going through longitudinally. Sadly, we burden medical students with $200K in debt and then ask them to choose between a high-paying good-lifestyle specialty or a low-paying poor-lifestyle specialty.
And then one layer down, the primary issue is it’s hard to pay PCPs more when 99.5% of their visits are for common colds, medication renewals, knee pain, etc. and 0.5% of their visits make huge impacts (e.g. diagnosis of cancer early). Just like trying to discriminate urgent care vs. ER, how does one know which patients to send to an NP who can take care of routine issues, and which to send to a PCP with a better understanding of complex issues including management of multiple specialists’ recommendations.
A friend had a case of a bad virus and the urgent care did a great job with her too.
I'm sure it varies from place to place and need to need, and few of us have the training to tell which. But at least some urgent care centers can do really good work for a lot more than cuts.
In your case the urgent care center did the right thing. A fever of 107 could be a lot of incredibly dangerous things, some of which require surgery, and ASAP. I'm glad your daughter required nothing more, but it was absolutely a situation where the urgent care center was not sufficient.
You and I can't be expected to know that, and it would be great if we lived with a system that didn't draw such sharp lines in order to reduce cost. The urgent and emergency places should be part of the same system and co-located as much as possible. But that requires a complete rebuild of our system from the ground up.