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Have you actually listened to the interviews with the pilots? The debunking videos offered do not explain what they saw or experienced. Choosing the debunking guys explanation means that you basically have to believe in a conspiracy involving the pilots. So you're back to square one.

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Unless the interviews with the pilots - or statements by anyone else, for that matter - present facts or other arguments which render the debunking unsound, then this approach merely avoids the issues raised by the debunkers, and their specific arguments remain uncontested.

I would be interested in any counter-debunking that specifically addresses the arguments of the debunkers.

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