I don't mean to sound conspiratory, but I guess I kinda do. We're going to have a hard time getting along with each other in the future. It is going to get worse. :-( I also fear closing down our open platforms, so it is a lose-lose situation.
Reminds me of the white doves and hawks analogy from Richard Dawnkins' Selfish Gene. Until there are too many hawks, the doves suffer. Btw, this has nothing to do with good/evil, just exploitation of social settings where trust is the default state. Too many hawks and the population starves so it reaches an equilibrium, but also oscillates over evolutionary time scales.
Also, in the recent news, many conservates are calling off General Milley after his rather heated exchange with Gaetz. I am sure you can find the source.
We can only hope that the former will not become apparent - and I'm saying this as a European. The USA exports its culture quite effectively to our parts of the world, both the good parts as well as the bad. The latter category includes a bevy of critical theory spin-offs which have grown like wildfire in academia from where they managed to escape into the real world where they're wreaking havoc. While it is clear that these movements are self-extinguishing due to their dependence on an ever-increasing number of identity groups vying for a position in the oppression hierarchy the amount of damage they can do - and have already done - to societal cohesion is enormous.
[1] https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-fiery-explosive-challen...
> Across our interviews, our respondents [former and current RT journalists] agreed that the goals of the channel [RT] since 2008 have been and still are as follows. First, to push the idea that Western countries have as many problems as Russia. Second, to encourage conspiracy theories about media institutions in the West in order to discredit and delegitimize them. This is clearly adherent to the channel's “Questions More” slogan. Third, to create controversy and to make people criticize the channel, because it suggests that the channel is important, an approach that would particularly help RT managers get more funding from the government.
-- “Anything that Causes Chaos”: The Organizational Behavior of Russia Today (RT), https://academic.oup.com/joc/article/70/5/623/5912109
I suppose giving Commies like Chris Hedges and Noam Chomskys of the world a platform (that they can’t get in US media) is some noxious evil compared to mainlining on MSNBC or Fox.
Propaganda can be 100% true, and from what I remember, they were quite good at it.
-- Conspiracy Theories: A Critical Introduction, https://www.google.com/books/edition/Conspiracy_Theories/e0i...
Except this is from 2018. It’s good that HN is catching up to RT:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/435466-alex-jones-ban-internet-cens...
I don’t know the others, but LaRouchite (lol, that pro-Soviet org) Tarpley was a regular when I watched and I dont remember 9/11 stuff, but he was on all the CIA, Assange, Color Revolution stuff. Here he is on that other Putin channel, C-SPAN:
The US needs to IP blacklist Russia and China. If you do business in the US, you shouldn’t be able to connect to a network that is connected to Russia or China. Let the European and Asian backbone providers choose, do business with US businesses or Russia / China.
You know the US has and does do this too right?
The US doesn't seem to be as effective in brutal opposition to infiltration. There's no moral equivalent.
If you blame everything on china, people won't want to believe you when there are legitimate things
Haha
I have evidences that US interference causes a lot of division inside China. Not a hunch at all. NED, one of the famous 3 letter group.
Then you can imagine, China will do the same to US, eventually... But rest assured, China have not mastered the tactics yet.
Meanwhile, as for mastering tactics, all China has to do is similarly support activists and opposition groups financially by funneling them cash. It's quite likely they do so in all their rivals. There was a scandal decades ago with China giving campaign contributions to US politicians.
It's interesting you're being downvoted along with the parent post about foreign propaganda.
The hundreds of replies were a variation of about three talking points: that people should be afraid of protestors, that the protestors will kill you, and that killing them first is justified. They were posting things like "What if the protestors drag you out of your car?", "If protestors bang on my windows trying to kill me I'm going to run them over" and or "If you stop your car, the protestors will kill you" etc. They also replied to other posts about the same topic on Reddit with the same talking points.
The posts used the same few phrases and the same punctuation and style. They would delete their comments if a comment's karma went negative and then reply to me again. Many of the accounts had similar naming patterns, and no other comments in their history, as well. r/news requires a certain amount of karma in order to comment, so they had to have deleted their old comments before replying in that subreddit.
I revisited the post and accounts a few days later and saw that some of the account owners had deleted their accounts entirely, and a majority of them had deleted (and not removed by a moderator) their violence-instigating replies to my comment, too. I figure some of them did this to keep the karma and recycle the accounts, and deleted the comments so they can be used in the future without it looking weird or getting banned.
I suspect it was coordinated in some way, even if it was just a bunch of people in a Discord chat.
But what stuck with me was that there is a somewhat large group of people who want (other) Americans to die. They want people to respond to free speech and dissent with murder. They want people to be afraid of what other people will do to them if they speak up and organize. They want people to fear each other so much that they can justify murder with that fear.
It was one of the reasons that I quit using Reddit and other social media (besides this site)- although I do see some of the same things happening here.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/report-blm-co-founder-l...
The co-founder of Black Lives Matter, Alicia Garza, partnered with a pro-Chinese Communist Party group to fund its lobbying operations in the United States.