More teenagers died of lockdown, than died with COVID.
Why havn't all restrictions across the land (including masks and endless testing) ceased immediately?
So instead of 10 million cancer deaths per year, suddenly we see zero. But also 10 extra choking deaths.
"The Anti-Cancer Pill caused 10 people to choke to death this year. In contrast, 0 people died of cancer. 10 is much bigger than 0! Why hasn't this pill been banned immediately?"
A more accurate analogy is only 20% of the population 55 or up is vulnerable to cancer.
Now the government puts everyone in a straight jacket with no end in sight to keep that 20% safe.
Now substitute the word cancer for covid and straight jacket for lockdown.
More people die of car accidents yearly than died of covid in the 80% of the population that is below 55 years old.
The average death from covid is 80 years old with multiple comorbidities.
We appear to be totally fine as a society to let kids kill themselves to save unhealthy old people.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-...
And if you're going to compare potential covid deaths to car deaths then you should compare suicide to car deaths too.
This article about suicides are just one of many in a massive list of side effects from questionable government overreach into our lives.
Everyone but the rich are going to pay for this lockdown in numerous ways for the foreseeable future.
And can motivate suicides!
Also the numbers in your analysis are totally forgetting the part about hospitals getting overwhelmed and death rates spiking.
> Everyone but the rich are going to pay for this lockdown in numerous ways for the foreseeable future.
Well, let's take more of their money to fix basic societal problems like lack of housing and addiction treatment.
Please provide a source for that and not just a source that says 'near capacity'.
E.R.s constantly operate 'near capacity'.
> Well, let's take more of their money
So use the government to fix the problems that the government created?
That makes as much sense as wanting to increase government regulations but defund police to enforce those new regulations.
> That makes as much sense as wanting to increase government regulations but defund police to enforce those new regulations.
...what's the contradiction? You don't enforce regulations with police.
Using police for the wrong job is half of the problem that "defund the police" is trying to address.
Meanwhile, in Texas all Covid restrictions were lifted in March... and no co-oresponding surge in infections were recorded, infections decrease to record lows actually..only 16% had received first dose of vaccine, TX was 48th in vaccination rates.
Florida and other states had similar results when they lifted restrictions.
From here the evidence appears to be in favor of lockdowns having no effect.
1. because it’s only due to the masks and endless testing the Covid death count is so low
2. Without the masks and endless testing, young people would infect many many older people, creating even more deaths
This isn’t a conspiracy. Doctors do want the least number of deaths in the community.
Some tried, but yeah, mostly it's been suppressed by politics: The MATH+ protocol would've cut the death rate to about 1/3 what it currently is, but it isn't well-known because of artificial controversy over some of the drugs it uses.
Of course failing to target men more heavily was not as egregious as making it available to essential workers at the same time as older people to create more racial equity in who got the vaccine. Even though the CDC figures said that targeting older people first would have saved more lives, and even more minority lives. See https://reason.com/2020/12/18/vaccine-cdc-essential-workers-... for more on that topic.
And, of course, a lot of people simply showed up, said they delivered for DoorDash, and got the vaccine. Knowing that nobody would check up on them.
There is an element of sometimes ugly politics to this. :-(
As well, this is analysis after the fact, and not at the time of the decision making - totally different.
So parent is emphatically wrong.
The grandparent comment is more strongly stated than I would agree with. But not wrong.
Like how they won the Nobel prize for lobotomies in the seventies?
Doctors would take out sections of women's and kids brains to make them quieter so your house wife talked back less and unruly kids would calm down. And it had a 14% mortality rate
That's not a conspiracy that's documented fact.
It's logical fallacy called 'appeal to authority' that Doctors/Experts are these angels that have no agenda and just want what's best for us. They can be wrong and are quite often.
There's absolutely no evidence for either of the points you're making. If what you're saying wasn't a mainstream narrative it could be considered a conspiracy theory. The only difference between religion and a cult is mainstream acceptance.
Most of the country has lifted covid restrictions fully and we're only at 40%ish vaccination rate.
If you were correct and mask usage was effective we would see infection surges instead of RECORD LOW numbers of covid cases all over the country.
All of it was medical theater and was never necessary to begin with there's no proof otherwise.
It's okay to admit you were wrong and light of new evidence.
Meanwhile, COVID affects other populations at a much greater degree. So, no statistical change in harm to children, and a much greater benefit for adults. That's why the restrictions make sense.
Our society hadn't really dealt with a pandemic of this size since 1919 (although that one was far bigger), and hadn't dealt with a pandemic of any significant size since 1968, so clearly we did some things wrong. It's kind of like a military which has not fought a war in decades; you can expect them to not be very good at strategy for the first year.
By the way, masks and "endless testing" do not cause anywhere remotely as much stress as lockdowns, I don't believe.
Even if we did prioritize the hundred over the thousands, I see ending lockdowns, but what's your justification for ending mask policies and testing?
Regarding the lockdown comment, again I’ll write that things don’t exist in a vacuum- optimizing policy over a demographic with 23 deaths, at the expense of demographics with hundreds of thousands of deaths, is probably not a trade many politicians/public health officials/etc think is good.
But who knows, maybe guy-in-the-chat knows better. Should probably brush up on his basic stats first, though!.
So, yeah, the restrictions haven't been immediately lifted because that would be entirely unjustified.
Even if there is a causal relationship, there's not enough evidence to conclude that it's a direct causal relationship between lockdown and suicide, let alone between masks/testing and suicide (what?).
For instance, I'd bet that at least a few of the excess deaths are from harmful parents - whether physically abusive, intolerant of something about their kid's identity, etc. In my social circles I know a whole lot of people who have a strained if not nonexistent relationship with their parents and for whom leaving home for college quite literally saved their life. I can easily see a loss of hope for students in their final years of high school, and the study also includes 18-25-year-olds - which includes students who had already moved to dorms and were then sent home.
These kids probably could have survived lockdown just fine, were they living on their own or in a supportive household. They just didn't survive their parents. The causal relationship is that we instituted lockdown without any regard for harmful family situations.
It seems both possible and ethical to study statements made by people who died by suicide (suicide notes, public social media posts, statements to friends, etc.), and I think that would be a lot more scientifically useful for the cause of preventing suicide than assuming that the reason was that they didn't like lockdown per se.
folks over 65 and 40% BMI got their go in life. prioritizing around the make makes more sense to me.
thankfully the lockdowns are no stomach anymore in most of the states. a visit to an airport and any city not in california or ny and you can see and feel the difference in an instant.
> Why havn't all restrictions across the land (including masks and endless testing) ceased immediately?
"across the land"? What kind of medieval clown talk is that lol