Although the common explanations are often BS.
I learned it multiple times. In middle school, in high school, in university, on youtube explained by a quantum physicist.
Everytime I understood less of it.
So it's better to say that our models are simplified, not lies.
To be fair, for most purposes (atoms, molecules, metals) there usually (very-) technically aren't any electrons, just configurations of the relevant quantum fields (eg in the form of electron orbitals) whose asociated conserved quantities would allow them to convert into a certain number of free-flying electron particles if you dumped in enough energy to make up the difference.
You see this a bit more obviously with ('virtual'[0]) photons, where some non-particulate field configurations simply can't be thought of as particles at all (eg attactive electromagnetic forces).
0: https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-ph...
There are no quantum fields either, just as there are no atoms. Things (of the right size) behave as if there they were composed of quantum fields (or electrons or atoms), and the less we have to say "... except that ...", the more comfortable we are with the story.
I look at "quantum computer" components and go "what does a grid of wires have to do with 'computing'? And then you realize the big secret - There's regular computers that take the 'output' of the qubits/QC stuff and 'decide' what the results are, since it's all just a blob of probability anyhow...
Unfortunately I don't remember what book I used. But yeah, this definitely opened my eyes to how electricity works.
Isn’t that how to spot seniority? The junior says “I know ReactJS and SpringBoot!” The senior says: “I don’t know much…”
Unrelated, but that reminds me how my Masters Degree teachers touted the importance of their subject in their introduction course, all explaining the Ariane V explosion from a completely different angle:
- The measurements professor: “Ariane V crashed because engineers tripped themselves into different imperial/metric units, this is why Measurements & Precision is the most important topic!”
- The programming teacher: “They fit a long inside an integer and it looped to negative, which inverted the trajectory of Ariane V and triggered its destruction, this is why learning C properly is the core of your teaching this year.”
- The quality assurance teacher: “They didn’t check the contract of the component! This is why QA is the most important when creating big systems!”
- The management teacher: “It’s the story of two teams who designed two components with different assumptions, one team worked in imperial units and they didn’t communicate clearly about assumptions, that’s why management is the one topic you should really work on.”
They were all right. Or rather, they were all wrong: Everyone knows Ariane V exploded because the officer pushed a red button ;)
...and this is why learning the value of drawing the boundaries and selecting stop points in the analysis of complex topics, and the employment of humor is a powerful rhetorical tool. This is why you composition is the most important topic this semester!
Sorry... Couldn't resist. <Queue the follow up psychology is the most important topic you'll learn this semester, followed by Biology, Social Psychology, Anthropology, all getting stucktrying to get in the door.
Also, what school teaches QA These days?
Interesting question! INSA Lyon in France, but that was in 2005, you could mock that the Old Continent does a lot of V-Cycle waterfall projects and had missed the Agile turn of 2001.
BUT learning how processes help is, instead, a very important step to judge what exactly we give up with Agile.
The irony is I went on creating software for requirements, and I can testify that all of the hardware industry does QA more diligently than ever!
Software Quality Assurance is much more... Spongey.
You'll see this regularly in the series Aviation Disasters on TV. It has lessons for all engineering projects. I watch every episode :-)
They reused the launch code of Ariane 4 in Ariane 5, but Ariane 5 was much faster to take off. It was an overflow on the acceleration and bad testing because reading an Ada exception as flight data is not great.
We learn that at school in France many years later.
There are some old controversies that are largely settled. The Microsoft Flight Simulator manual in 1980 "teached the controversy" but it was really settled decades before that. People still remember the controversy from back then and keep repeating it and probably will still do it when people are living in space colonies.
The Bernoulli effect explanation is bogus.
An alternate (correct) explanation is that if you just took a piece of cardboard, held it sideways, and moved it laterally it would push the air down and thus the cardboard would be pushed up.
If you like vector fields you can show that there is a topological defect (vortex ring) that is threaded through the wings and comes around to the other side. If you do an integral around the ring you can show the vortex holds the plane up.
I hear this but never seem to get any further info. Why are wings shaped with a curved top and flat bottom? Is there a good summary I can go read to understand this all?
AFAIK the wing shape thing is about reducing drag (turbulence?)–not essential but hard to fly well without a nicely shaped wing.
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/foam_wi...
When learning about flight, keep asking yourself "Then how do planes fly upside down?" Any explanation which does not mesh with sustained, inverted flight is oversimplified to the point of uselessness and inaccuracy.
Most wings aren't shaped like that.
It's not because there's a magic force that requires air particles parted be the leading edge to rejoin thier partner at the trailing edge.
The air particles on the upper surface reach the trailing edge much sooner than the ones under the wing.
Most of the lift comes from the suction side.
Actually, if you really want to test an explanation, try to apply the same reasoning to explain how a sailing boat can sail upwind (or at least up to about 45 degrees off).
Gravity or force creates the pressure differential. Wing pushes on air below it. (Why birds fly.) Additionally, for moving wing, edges create vortices that create local pressure differentials. (Why helicopters and planes and birds work better than floating pieces of paper.)
Wings work very similarly to performance ship hulls in this regard.
If I have a wing shaped like ∖, air going in -> direction, which is what you need to generate lift with a flat wing, then the air on the bottom is running into the wing and slowing down, while the air on the top is being pulled into the region the wing swept clear of particles and speeding up.
bottom air:
"bounces" down, simple enough. Force on wing up and back.
top air:
bounces up off front of wing (because it's not infinitely thin), but then is unimpeded by wing. It get's slightly more compressed at the very front, but then as the wing goes down this big gap is left. The air isn't going to bounce on the air above significantly because air compressed and this is laminar flow to boot: Viscosity > internia-ness.
The about-to-be-vacuum means the bottom air pushes the wing up more easily, usually to the point where there is no more vacuum, just low pressure. But if you go really fast (or are a hydrofoil?) then there might be an actual vacuum.
The vacuum "initially" just accelerates the air vertically, but once things get going since the airfoil "carves out a triangle", the air might speed up horizontally too. There is air behind it (front re aircraft heading) pushing on it but not air in front which is getting "untraffic jammed" away.
There we go, I think this accounts for everything in the article without any Bernoulli. Screw Bernoulli.
[0] https://youtu.be/QKCK4lJLQHU?t=834 (watch for 5 minutes to get some idea of his main points, or 35 minutes to watch in full. The link will skip the introduction.)
If you try to move a flat object through water, it creates pressure at the front and suction at the back. If you tilt it diagonally (and move it right to left), you get pressure in the bottom right and suction in the top right.
Short version is that you created a hole (lower pressure area) in air which it now tries to fill. Air and gasses have finite limited velocity known as speed of sound, which is why you get these pressure differentials while the wing is moving. With a flat wing, they're rather small and low pressure vortex is located behind the wing. In an angled wing, some of it is located below the wing and the air trying to fill the low pressure area exerts a lift force on the wing. (It's unlike a balloon. Bernoulli has very limited impact, unlike essentially wind.)
In my understanding, if you increase angle of attack sufficiently to generate vortices on the upper surface, then you aren't efficiently transferring downward momentum to the air your wing is shedding, and you lose lift, which causes aerodynamic stall. Am I missing something?
It's much simpler than that anyway. The wing forces the air downward, so the plane must be forced up.
But equally, if the plane is forced up, the air must be forced down. Cause and effect are not obvious from a force diagram.
It seems nobody really knows:
"No One Can Explain Why Planes Stay in the Air"
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-one-can-explai...
Edit: Added brief from article above:
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- On a strictly mathematical level, engineers know how to design planes that will stay aloft. But equations don't explain why aerodynamic lift occurs.
- There are two competing theories that illuminate the forces and factors of lift. Both are incomplete explanations.
- Aerodynamicists have recently tried to close the gaps in understanding. Still, no consensus exists.
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In order to stay at a fixed altitude upside down you have to bring the nose of the aircraft up several degrees (increasing based on air speed).
this is really all the intuition most people need to understand flight, even if it leads to an incomplete understanding. it's easy to feel the air pushing on the bottom of your hand when you tilt it up (or top, when tilted down). what's not obvious is that there is also lift created on the top side at the same time, but that can subsequently be learned in high school physics (or fluid dynamics in college, which is where it really stuck for me).
Upside down flight requires you to basically inverse this deflection, but it isn't because of Bernoulli lift.
The overwhelming majority of aircraft have an incidence angle relative to the body for the reason stated. So rather by "typically", could you name a single aircraft that doesn't have such an incidence angle? An SR-71?
As to "0 degrees angle of attack lift", such lift is close to negligible. Maybe you mean the body of the aircraft is zero degrees, but then we loop back to the core point again.
My favourite two "explanations" of flight are 1) dP/dt for air is greater down than up; and 2) Kelvin's circulation theorem, but alas that one is not very pub-friendly...
Wings need to support the weight of your aircraft while being light this means they need to be reasonably thick especially using the obvious choice of storing fuel inside them. The first obvious choice is a teardrop shape which gets lift from being angled up similarly to the way a flat wing does.
Real wings don’t quite use a teardrop shape, but if you look at the front most part of a wing you see it curves both down and up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_attack#/media/File:Ai...
In seriousness though, there is a big difference between "bottom up" causality-focused theories and these derived principles based on complicated notions of steady states. Even when the student is too junior not to have any choice but use the latter, I think the difference needs more emphasis.
Also the 3rd law model of flight is so much easier to understand they should teach it first.
Though I think it's more valid to think of the wing as imparting a downward momentum on the air flowing over it. Meaning it's really a reaction engine.