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> carpet bombing Gaza indiscriminately

It's just their words against theirs.

I don't know what happened to the anti-Arab chanters, in my opinion, they should be sued (and arrested when appropriate). And "Israelis" did not shout those. They were from an ultra nationalist faction.

It's not Israelis vs. Palestinians. It's Hamas wanting to kill every Jew it can, and Israel attacking Hamas to save its citizens, and then innocent Palestinians getting killed because they were used as human shield by Hamas.

If Hamas stops ruling Gaza, and the leadership are properly brought to justice, and Israel still does what it is doing today, I will turn pro-Palestine in a heartbeat.

And honestly I don't like the power orthodox Rabbis have in Israel. I am opposed to clergy- Jew, Islamic, Hindu- does not matter.

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I think the main question from op was this- it completely rips apart all the propaganda you’ve been writing throughout this thread.

> How do you explain the ongoing eviction, backed by IDF enforcement, of Sheikh Jarrah? If Palestinians have equal rights and Israel has stopped occupying Gaza and encroaching on Gazan land, why are there constant clashes between settlers and Gazans in the West Bank?

The fact that you ignored that question in favor of Hamas wanting to destroy Israel (which is a well known, undisputed fact) honestly shows you the know the truth and are complicit in deceit.

I’m curious do you work directly for the IDF, or are you from the group of people who just hate Arabs and wish they’d disappear?

We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Banned which account? And I’m curious why some of these “political” posts break site guidelines but others do not. I see political discussions on Crimea and China. Are the guidelines specific to Israel and Palestinians?

"This account" means "the account I'm currently replying to". No, of course the guidelines aren't specific that way. Not all political posts are off topic, but everyone needs to follow the site guidelines, and the rules apply more, not less, as a topic gets more divisive: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

That does not mean that every post that breaks the site guidelines gets moderated, though, for the simple reason that we don't see everything that gets posted here. There's far too much for us to read it all. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. People can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

To be clear, you can go ahead and ban whatever accounts you’d like.

This thread is currently trending on the front page, and it’s as political as this post.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27646686

But that thread hasn’t been flagged, nor are you going out of your way to ban posters in that thread.

But the account you replied to was mine, and you’re banning me because the Israel Palestine issue seems to be censured by Hacker News.

You can just admit that instead of hiding behind site policies and guidelines. “We won’t allow criticism of Israel.” If you want to be a cog for Israeli propaganda, that’s fine. Why hide behind site guidelines and not fess to it? It’s pretty spineless and cowardly, no?

Did you not notice that the very same Israel/Palestine article has just been on HN's front page for many hours?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27645282

There were multiple submissions of the article. More explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27647873. I hope you'll notice that the truth is exactly the opposite of how you perceived this.

I banned you because you broke the site guidelines egregiously. It has zero to do with what the topic happened to be. The topic could have been type inference, Oreo cookies, chess ratings—that's not the high-order bit. What's not ok is posting in a way that destroys this place for its intended purpose. The ecosystem here is fragile. Comments like what you posted destroy it. We need to protect it. That's all that's happening here.

You're far from the only person doing that, and we try to be as fair and even-handed as we possibly can. I know we don't do it perfectly. But https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27643425 was hardly a borderline call.

> It's Hamas wanting to kill every Jew it can

You bet. Jews immigrated en masse to Palestine, then used their leverage at the UN to have half of the country assigned to themselves alone, then proceeded to ethnic cleanse as many Arab villages as possible. In the decades Israel has used every possible excuse to occupy more land, in violation of all laws and agreements, and install their population, while harassing, persecuting, and killing the indigenous population.

You bet that Hamas wants to kill them! It's because they're vicious anti-semite? No.

(By the way, jokes apart: no, Hamas doesn't want to kill all the Jews and has officially said so: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full )

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