You just linked to a list of processors for starting development of a new embedded Windows device.
99.9999% of people will never have to concern themselves with this. Microsoft would never limit support to CPUs released a few years ago.
I don't have any i8 or later CPUs to test with, but thus far all of my machines with TPMs have reported as not compatible from Microsoft's tool.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windo... TPM 1.2 is the bare minimum required, TPM 2.0 for some security features
That's a very far cry from "8th gen Intel required", TPM 1.2 has been around for more than a decade.
Odds are you need to change a setting in your BIOS.
This link says TPM 2.0 minimum:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...
And no 1st gen AMD Ryzen supported:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...
Your second link is literally the first thing I replied to in this thread. It's for OEMs making new devices.
And straight from my last comment: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windo...
> *devices that meet the soft floor will receive a notification that upgrade is not advised*.
> *Security: TPM Version >= 1.2 and SecureBootCapable = True*
Are you just being willfully ignorant of the fact that this is clearly the more accurate page since it breaks down the requirements into two sets, or...
Again, MS, the company that introduced special code paths for Sim City to run on their OS aren't about to lock their OS to a few years of PCs.
This is no different than other versions of Windows that had increased RAM requirements but would still boot up as long as a bare minimum was met.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27626756
Click here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...
Then follow the "compatible 64-bit processor" link. You will land exactly there.
Alright, you've clearly made your choice.
There are new minimum hardware requirements for Windows 11. In order to run Windows 11, devices must meet the hardware specifications. Devices that do not meet the hardware requirements cannot be upgraded to Windows 11.
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC)
Windows Processor Requirements
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Windows Client Edition Processors
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Windows 11 Supported AMD Processors Supported Intel Processors Supported Qualcomm Processors
> TPM 1.2 is a “hard floor” for installing Windows 11 TPM 2.0 is a "soft floor"
Now, presumably because everyone's hotlinking to the one place where they admitted "Well actually you don't *need* TPM 2.0" they cut and paste data from some other page and put that note on the bottom
It's amazing, through sheer will in rejecting a not-very-well-hidden truth, people got MS to bury this even further. Impressive!
Just like there was a Soft/Hard for TPM there was one for CPU... but again now that's gone:
https://i.pcmag.com/imagery/articles/03M5zHCwxn6igCkcMUN78hz...
No CPU generation for the hard floor.
This is simple. MS wants the proliferation of features that require TPM 2.0.
So if you use a layperson's tool for identifying Windows 11 install targets, it requires 2.0.
If you use their own documents (which are now hidden) the OS will run on much more hardware.
If I was talking to my mom about if she can install Windows 11 it'd be one thing, but this is HN. If MS is saying "we want this on X, but it runs on Y"... it runs on Y.
I just ran the MS "PC Health Check", and it tells me "This PC cannot run Windows 11" .
This is a brand new machine. I built it 2 months ago. It was the only Ryzen APU available to buy online here in Brazil!
Caveat: The install tool bypass has not been verified yet.