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Well nowadays there’s inexpensive DNA tests incase your wife purposefully confuses paternity. Cheap enough that you don’t have to go on the Maury TV show to find out. One female dating strategy as old as time is to have a baby with an alpha male and let a beta male raise it. However, I don’t know of a scenario where a wife won’t get very angry if you request a paternity test.

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They may be inexpensive, but they also have to be legal. In France, you may only have one if ordered by a judge, which only happens for a limited number of reasons, and may be refused if it's deemed against the child's interest.

> The carrying out of a paternity test outside the legal framework carries penalties ranging from one year's imprisonment to €15,000 fine.

Official source: https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F14042?...

Wait, really? Even if both sides consent? Why does the French government want to tell people whether they can or not can have a DNA test if both parties consent??

I seem to recall a reason along the lines of "to keep the peace in the families". Can't find that source.

But in practice, I expect a paternity test to come in an otherwise troubled relationship, so I don't know how often it happens that both parents would seek to get one.

Paternity tests for every birth is a thing one has to mention up front as a position. Then those who'd be offended by it self-select out of one's dating pool.

I disagree. Paternity tests for every birth are unnecessary. That girl he met at the club messaging him on Instagram that she’s pregnant with his boy versus The woman that has moved in with him and he is married to before having kids. Every situation is different and to some this honesty test doesn’t matter.

What’s the gene pool loss if the kid actually isn’t his? Seems to me that that his dating pool will then expand from zero to many. A rational male may think that offering more than 18 years of his life is more significant than not offending someone once.

The whole alpha thing is from a study of captive wolves. In the wild, the alphas are the two parents and the betas or whatever are their pups.

It's like drawing conclusions about human society based on just watching prison inmates interact.

I’m referring to the behavior in humans. Alpha high status or beta bucks provider in males. Do you have words you’d prefer to substitute?

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