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2.28 seconds without cheating.

Add glue to asphalt and start at 6 mph instead of 0 mph and it's below 2 seconds.

2.8 if you don’t feel like engaging the drag strip mode that takes 8 to 15 minutes to cool the motors and cool/heat the battery so you can do the 2.28

The LR is 3.1, so you decide whether $50k is worth it.

The real question is how are other cars measured, because if everyone cheats, no one cheats.

Everyone does a 1 foot rollout.

Magazines do, manufacturers generally don't.

Source? Everything I've seen says 1 foot rollout is industry standard.

North American auto magazines.

Europeans don't. Porsche for example. Dodge don't do it.

Tesla don't do it either for their non performance models.

not really. if everyone cheats a different way, you just can't compare the numbers.

I wish people didn't care so much about this specific performance number anyway. 0-60 time doesn't tell you how fast a car will go around a track (if you're into that), and more importantly imo, it doesn't tell you much about how enjoyable a car will be to drive on public roads. it's particularly frustrating to see how the few remaining manual transmissions are all designed to hit redline in second gear at 62 mph. talk about optimizing for the benchmark...

For car enthusiasts, I agree. For most of the population, 0-60 is a useful metric. Everybody accelerates from traffic lights and uses a highway on ramp nearly every day. Pulling 1g on a curve is for a work commute or road trip is rare.

Everybody accelerates from traffic lights, but few want to do 0-60 in two seconds there. FTA: “firmly press your noggin against the headrest (trust us), release the brake, and hang on.”

The difference between 0-60 in 4 seconds (drives the same distance as a constant speed of 30 for 4 seconds) and 0-60 in two seconds plus two seconds at 60 (gives you the same distance as a constant speed of 30 for 2 seconds plus one of 60 for 2 seconds) is the distance driven in two seconds at 30, so you’d be a whopping (not) one second behind if you drove that slower accelerating car.

(Also, this car takes 8 to 15 minutes to prepare for that sprint. That’s not the practical)

I wasn't describing how the plaid is practical. I gave reasoning why the concept of the 0-60 metric is useful and relatable for the general public.

there's very rarely a good reason to use full throttle from a dead stop on public roads. if I want to get in front of someone at a traffic light, about half-open throttle is all I need to do it. if the other driver resists, it's wiser to find a slot behind them instead.

I actually find the 30-50 and 50-70 tests that car and driver runs to be pretty interesting for a daily driver. in a manual it shows what kind of performance you can expect merging / changing lanes if you're too lazy to downshift, and in an automatic it captures how well the transmission responds to a sudden application of the throttle while cruising. these figures strike me as a lot more realistic than flooring it from a dead stop. many cars are traction limited in the lower gears anyway.

I do understand some people simply enjoy accelerating hard in a straight line, and I don't begrudge them that. I'm just disappointed by the tradeoffs that are made to hit that headline figure.

The engineers begged Elon not to whip them again but to make it stop they would have to use some shenanigans.

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