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To use it you're clearly using early beta software. Clearly it isn't going to "turn itself on again".

I turned it on and actually forgot I did. Performance is decent here. I mean of course it's going to be worse than native, but that's the compromise.

As to trusting Cloudflare -- what do you mean? You understand your connection is still TLS end-to-end encrypted (presuming that's what we're talking about), right? I mean...presuming the site your talking to isn't using Cloudflare SSL. In no way does this reduce that security. If you're talking about HTTP, well everyone in between can already see that.

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> Clearly it isn't going to "turn itself on again"

Why is it so clear? An iPhone hotspot turns itself off as soon as a device disconnects, with no option to leave it on, presumably for security or battery reasons.

> To use it you're clearly using early beta software. Clearly it isn't going to "turn itself on again".

Of course I’m talking about the beta version. But I can assure you that once I found out that it interferes with internal DNS, I turned it off (it’s on by default on the current betas) and a day later it was back on.

That’s what I meant with „it turns itself on again“

[Clearly not turn itself on.]

Funny story, I was shocked and quite annoyed that an iPhone automatically turns on Wifi and stuff every day by itself - even if you turn it off...

Still dont know how to actually turn it off

if you disable from quick menu, it turns back on. if you disable from settings, it doesn’t

And when you do so it does flash a message along the lines of “Disconnecting nearby wifi until tomorrow”.

Which makes it pretty clear it’s not a wifi kill switch but just a “my current connection is shit, let me use cellular” button.

yeah, but even so, it’s one of these occasions where an os symbol has been altered to change behaviour without the user’s consent or control

it’s not quite as egregious, but it reminds me of how a lot of desktop apps now just minimise to tray rather than actually ending the process when you click the close button. discord is probably the worst offender for that, since it’s not (that I’m aware) a customisable behaviour

Discords behaviour is customisable (at least on Windows).

Settings > app settings - Window settings > close button - minimize to tray.

Turning this off causes Discord to quit completely when clicking the red X in the top right.

The control center wifi control always worked this way. It wasn't "altered", that is a primary feature of its functionality.

Apple gains nothing from your WiFi re-engaging. But many users do because, as another comment mentioned, people turn it off in control center because their connection is temporarily shit, or more likely just accidentally. Then they get to end of month and they have a monster cell overage.

Someone was using control center wrong (despite it very clearly indicating the use of the button). It's a learning experience.

no, you’re wrong. it started working this way in iOS 11. You can look it up if you like

Control Center was added in iOS 11. Yeah, it didn't exist before then, so sure it "changed" from non-existent to existing.

No, I'm not wrong. I'm actually completely right. Control Center has always been a temporary toggle.

Again, that’s not true. Control centre, or some incarnation of it, has been around at least since iOS 6. It just sounds like you haven’t used an iPhone for very long

In case you’re just entirely misunderstanding what we’re talking about, I’m referring to being able to turn off the wifi when you swipe up from the bottom of the screen. This has been a feature since I’ve used an apple device, which is since iOS 5 or 6. Whether it’s been called “control centre” or not is irrelevant. That’s not even what I referred to it as in my first comment.

If you disable it from the control center thingie overlay it even states that is only for this day ...

If you disable it from settings, it stays off.

If you tap the wifi button in your controll center it just turns it off for 24 hours or when you switch locations. If you turn it off in the Settings App then it stays off.

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