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Yep.. you get paid shit as a dev here unless you run your own business.. has always been like that, will always be like that. Europe will never be big in software. We have nice livable cities, and we have old cultures, that’s about all what’s good here

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> Europe will never be big in software.

After the Bay Area, NYC and Beijing, London has the most startup funding of any city in the world, and the UK as a whole has the 3rd highest number of unicorns, after the US and China.

Parts of Europe are doing badly, others are doing ok (but could do better!).

Yeah, the UK isn’t really Europe...

Hope you moved as if I were you (reading all your comments here) I would not want to live here, and then in NL no less where I was born and people seem to like internationally. But if you dislike it so much I am not sure why you did not move to the US yet? Or even the UK which is a stepping stone but easier to get to.

I did, now makes probably 5x what I'd make in Europe.

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