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Comment by gojomo | Hacker News Reader

I'd prefer if HN only got followup articles about such breaches, which have some analysis.

Voting the actual raw data-dumps up emphasizes the other meaning of 'hacker' and almost looks like cheerleading.

I'm not sure if I agree. One thing that's nice about HN is that I so often get the story early, otherwise I would use one of the weekly/daily best-of aggregators anyway.

The front-page is big enough that I can handle there being one post for the original raw-data, and a subsequent post for the Ars analysis.

Your other point about "cheerleading" is well taken, It is easy to get caught up in the David vs. Goliath sentiment.

If we're waiting for Ars Technica to do an in-depth article, we'll be as late to the table as everyone else. I like learning about these things as they happen.

And no doubt the Ars article will be posted on HN once it's been written.

Right. Ars has a pretty solid reputation for taking its time to do an in-depth story. I'm happy to have both the quick version now and the Ars version later, and I don't mind both hitting the frontpage if the story is big enough.

We had this discussion about ~12 years ago with the attrition.org defacements gallery.

I'd say it's newsworthy and interesting, so I don't see a problem with it.

The thing is that it is also the main source of the "official" antisec statement. I prefer to read their direct humorous prose, it is less likely to leave important informations out.

I haven't seen this (yet) in any local media, and it's at least given me the opportunity to email all the Booz employees I know and urge them to at least change their passwords.

Having the information quickly is advantageous to both sides.

If you can live with all that business bullshit on "hacker" news you certainly can live with some security related data dumps.

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