At my last company engineers openly bragged about strategies to get prescriptions and increase dosages. I find this behavior reprehensible.
If they were my reports I would have fired them.
If they were my reports I would have fired them.
People use all kinds of substances: caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, marijuana, modafinil, a myriad of sleeping pills, antidepressants, and painkillers. At different points in time some of them have been banned or regulated, at others available to everyone. As things stand some of them require a prescription from a doctor.
In the vast majority of cases there's little danger to at least trying out stimulants like Adderall or methylphenidate, or substances like modafinil. If people want to try them I think they should be free to do so. If they have to jump through some hoops I see no reason to frown upon it.
Their body, their choice.
It stops being "Their body, their choice." when tangible harm is being caused to people who actually need the medication to treat a neurodevelopmental disorder.
I'm talking as someone who was denied medical treatment for 7 years because the first specialist I saw assumed, based on my age, that I was trying to scam them for a prescription.
Those years were basically lost, and that wouldn't have happened if there wasn't so many people seeking phony diagnoses.
If not for the exact discussions you’re speaking about at work, I would likely have ended up unemployed.
If multiple doctors are of the opinion they won’t prescribe it I don’t think that justifies drug seeking behavior.
I wasn’t seeking “drug seeking”, I was seeking the only medical intervention that I’ve found that ameliorates a diagnosed condition.
You really equate that with someone looking to get high?
I apologize but I can’t get over the notion it’s drug seeking and/or doctor shopping.
I must assume that there was a reason for the doctor not wanting to prescribe you that medication. If state guidelines were the true root why was another doctor amenable?
Using performance enhancing drugs is a losing game. It makes it harder for those who wish to use their natural cognitive abilities.
In time it forces everyone to dope up.
I think you’re misunderstanding - I had an existing, active prescription for Vyvanse when I moved into the state. It took me months to find a doctor who would refill it for me. I had already been through years of counseling at that point.
> I must assume that there was a reason for the doctor not wanting to prescribe you that medication. If state guidelines were the true root why was another doctor amenable?
The state “looked more closely” at doctors who prescribe stimulants. Basically none of the doctors I spoke to in the beginning was willing to add another prescription to their practice because of this.
> Using performance enhancing drugs is a losing game. It makes it harder for those who wish to use their natural cognitive abilities.
How does this logic not apply to cardiac drugs? It “makes it harder for those who wish to use their natural cardiac abilities”?
With all due respect, say less things like this.
You're wrong -the drugs treat a medical condition. Its not "doping" or "performance enhancing".
> It makes it harder for those who wish to use their natural cognitive abilities
Our society is full of people enhancing their natural abilities... with things like cars and escalators and calculators. Treating a medical condition is fixing a medical "flaw" but it is NOT some sort of get-ahead scheme.
This sort of diminutive language leaves people feeling bad about themselves instead of seeking adequate medical treatment.
Your PCP is the tier-1 tech support of the medical world. They have basically zero specialized knowledge to evaluate different medications outside the brochure the sales rep gave them. There's a reason PCP's punt the responsibility for a diagnosis to a psychologist and then play the game of "spin the wheel of stimulants" to find something that both alleviates their symptoms and has tolerable side-effects. Having to go through the process all again for no reason other than weird politics or a doctor on a power-trip is the worst.
Ugh.
You get medical records sent and see multiple doctors until one is aware of your ailment. Strategizing on how to lie is unacceptable to me. Happy to agree to disagree on this one.
If one of my reports used work resources to collude for substance abuse I would do everything I can to fire them.
I literally wish every time I go to the doctor that stimulants didn't get non-ADHD people high so I wouldn't have to deal with this crap.
Where are you getting this? Who lied?
I assume that you've sought medical care and been criticized for it, and now spread that unfortunate rhetoric to others?
They actually used work resources to discuss medical treatments so firing them over this would likely be very illegal.