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Dude honestly I don't care much about programming but its just a way to build stuff and be useful. Grind out all the CS data structures stuff and learn Java. Get a job at a big corp.

Or learn Node and JS and stuff and be a web dev.

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Agree with everything you said, although "Get a job" is harder* than it sounds. Learning programming is straightforward, getting a job is non trivial.

Assuming you mean harder than it sounds. Or, easier said than done.

You are right, I conflated both by mistake

Yeah 100%. But if you give off the vibe that you work hard to get stuff done, and you are humble as to what you don't know (shows you will take your time and learn right)... I think you can get an entry job.

Credentials do help though to get your foot in the door, I will say. I was a terrible programmer but had a college degree. Foot was in teh door and now I think i'm a pretty solid distributed java dev (and enough fullstack etc).

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