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Comment by stragio | Hacker News Reader

People like you ruin planet earth, really, try to put more trust in people. Oh and if you didn't yet, watch Black Mirror.

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Exactly. Why employ people you don’t trust? It sounds very tiring. I certainly don’t have time for it running a successful, fast-growing company.

I’ve employed people before who eroded my trust in them. I either fired them or nudged them to find a new job, depending on the severity of the thing they did to make me not trust them.

> Why employ people you don’t trust?

Sometimes the unions/courts require a company to document incompetence for a certain number of months before being able to let a person go.

I don't agree with these requirements, but can see how they could incentivize surveillance apps.

You must be fairly young and idealistic. It’s really hard to know people well enough to be able to trust them. Especially in this new WFH environment are you going to know your employees after a few skype calls? I’ve been in tech for over 25 years now and a manager for last 15, the level of deceit one comes across is mind blowing. In one case we had an employee we all liked and thought well of, did decent work, extremely friendly, and we caught him trying to copy all the company’s code to a USB drive attached to his workstation under his desk. People are crazy you never know what they will do.

You must be a tropey children's story villain who doesn't understand he power of friendship

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePowerOfFriend...

Your one employee betraying your trust does not justify treating the rest of your employees this way

You must be too cynical and jaded then because at 41 y/o with a family and a fair amount of life struggles under my belt I still can't see your point.

With programmers in particular it's painfully obvious if they work or not. You are expending tons of unnecessary (human) energy to maybe scoop 5-10% more productivity. It's not worth it.

There are also a lot of people who work better (and more!) when they feel free.

I mean, you do you of course, but consider that you're only surrounding yourself with one kind of people and are missing out on everybody else -- and no, they are not slackers.

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