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Ask HN: Have you been vaccinated or are you planning to?

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I am about to get vaccinated, i have an appointment next week. I am Pro-vaccines but i am unsure about this specific vaccine since it's not tested in years. A vaccine it considered safe of it's been used for over a decade and now this is developed and released within a year. If i get the covid i might get permanent side effects but with the vaccine nobody knows what it will bring to us in the next years. Have you been vaccinated or are you planning to?

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I'm not getting the vaccine, but our family had COVID early and it's not likely to help us anyway. My wife has already had a couple of incidents where she's been asked about vaccination and they had no provision for "infected and recovered", just vaccinated or not.

I expect the worst side effects are already apparent; and the ones that will trouble the most people for the longest are bureaucratic bullshit rules adopted in haste and never reviewed.

"Infected and recovered" antibody levels are often lower than vaccinated, and natural immunity may dissipate faster as well.

You should get vaccinated as long as you don't know your antibody levels.

There's debate about that; I have read the opposite (natural recovery results in longer immunity) recently as well. In the face of question, there, I tend to trust the longer history of the immune system over the vaccine.

The research has shown conclusively that individuals have vary different antibody levels after Covid recovery. There is no blanket advice.

The longer history of the immune system is 0% relevant. If the immune system could be "trusted", we wouldn't need most modern medicine at all.

Also, because vaccines (at least the mRNA ones) target highly conserved elements of the spike protein, they are likely to be more effective against other variants than natural immunity (which tends to target multiple different, but not necessarily highly-conserved, elements of the particular strain that you got.)

I have read that the Pfiser vaccine must be repeated after 6 months. And the other Covid viruses provide immunity for 2 years.

Whatever you read is nonsense. There is no universal principle for these things. Getting Pfizer every 6 months may end up being a good idea, but it'll be because it's the most conservative approach -- not because everyone's immunity disappears in 6 months.

Anything that says natural immunity lasts for 2 years is lying because the virus has not been observed in humans for that long yet.

I was refering to previous coronaviruses, we have data for these and they seem to leave an immunity of one or two years

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-commen...

Also they study old patients and the immune system goes strong for over 8 months, showing that it can last much longer: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6529/eabf4063

One can imagine a pandemic severe enough where requiring everyone to get vaccinated is obviously and overwhelmingly in the public’s best interest. And that this best interest of the public overrides any considerations of a purported right to not be vaccinated. There are times where the overall public safety considerations overwhelms individual objections.

Yes. I work in healthcare and was actually among the first group in the state of California to get the Pfizer series. I have records showing my first was back in December of 2020. A huge reason for getting vaccinated as soon as I could was to be part of the early test data, and also because I believed that this was our doorway to things being back to normal. Unfortunately it seems that for so many, now the goalposts have moved to "but what about the children?" despite the numbers for them being really, really low.

And now I am happily awaiting June 15th, 2021 at 12:01am when the California mandates finally expire.

Zero side effects.

I wouldn't vaccinate my children not because i would be afraid of the sort term side effects, but for the long term side effects that nobody knows now.

And why to vaccinate the children since they don't seem to pass it rought, the Convid doesn't leave them scars and they grow better immune by passing the virus instead of the vaccine.

I am 40 so i kinda afraid to pass the real virus, this is why i am thinking of vaccination.

The risk argument of getting COVID(and its short and long term side effects) vs vaccine(and its side effects) should be simple enough. The vaccine is being used by several million people in the world. If it had any super weird short term side effects, you would have known about it by now. If you are concerned about the unknown long term side effects or the vaccine - have you thought about the unknown long term side effects of catching COVID?

Nett win for vaccines don't you think?

Also, you get to break the chain of the pandemic and save a few lives along the way..

https://www.reddit.com/r/modernavaccine/

The history tell us that the vaccines might cause more severe trouble than you might think.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history....

Also, I might break the chain of the pandemic better by catching the real virus than using the vaccine.

At the start of the pandemic, we had to be careful because a portion of the population are for fragile. We had to watch until we find the vaccine and they are safe.

Now that they are safe, they are vaccinated, why do we have to continue be careful? This way the virus won't leave after 2 years that most viruses of this kind do.

> Have you been vaccinated or are you planning to?

Typical answer from someone who is somewhat well-versed in logic: yes.

Then Person = HealthRisk.Low

I’ve had my first dose of the vaccine, got the second dose booked in for next month.

Long COVID is definitely more of a worry for me than any vaccine side effects.

I got vaccinated few weeks ago. So far no green skin, no strong brain preferences, no magnetism or better phone reception. If you are reasonably young and healthy you should not be afraid from both the virus or the vaccine, but by vaccinating, you are doing a social service to protect everybody else.

If you were young and fertile girl and got vaccinated by HPV vaccination, then you might not be fertile anymore. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23902317/

Not only we are not talking HPV, but three subjects is a bit an overkill in terms of statistics.

I volunteered for AZ two months ago, otherwise I would have needed for to wait a couple more months to get a mRNA shot. With reserves of Ivermectin I feel very safe.

No and no.

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