It’s a long term investment that pays dividends when you have nothing else you want to do with your life, but chill with your family.
Regardless, it would be selfish if the parent's sole motivation were to produce caregivers. IME many people deciding to have children aren't thinking only of themselves.
Often consideration is both for their children and themselves. My friends and I certainly thought about it and discussed such things.
Anyway, while children may experience good and bad things they'll also be free to decide if life is something they want to personally continue living or not. Many will also be free to choose whether or not to bring children into the world themselves.
> they'll also be free to decide if life is something they want to personally continue living or not
Really? It's okay to force people into existence because they are free to commit suicide?
It seems like you could justify anything with this line of reasoning. "Why are you mad at me? If you don't like it, just kill yourself."
Until we can communicate with the preborn is there anyone better to decide then the parents?
> Really? It's okay to force people into existence because they are free to commit suicide?
I believe people have the right to create life, to choose not create it, and full rights over their own lives. And if no one is ever justified to bring others into being then all life is the product of injustice.
Anyway, my preference is to council people against suicide because it is such a permanent choice, and circumstances are often temporary. But ultimately to continue living is a choice.
This is the crux of my disagreement with you, and you haven't really presented an argument for your position.
> if no one is ever justified to bring others into being then all life is the product of injustice
This is exactly what I'm saying. I've said why I believe it's unjust, and you agree with the core of my reasoning; that unborn children can't consent to their birth. If you have an argument for why that doesn't make procreation a moral harm then I'm all ears.