Booking.com to repay €65M Dutch State aid after €28M in bonuses for 3 US execs
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"Bloc Québécois MP Xavier Barsalou-Duval put forward the motion, which states “that this House condemn the decision of senior management of Air Canada to pay themselves $20 million in executive bonuses when they’re received $6 billion in public assistance.”
Air Canada informed shareholders on Monday that its top executives and managers were getting a combined $10 million in stock options and bonuses for their response to the COVID-19 pandemic."
https://globalnews.ca/news/7918875/air-canada-executive-bonu...
In the booking.com case it's almost half the amount of aid spent on exec bonuses
It does reveals the reality of our managerial class--in a sort of distributed, quasi-feudalism they are entitled (legally and practically) to extract massive amounts of wealth from large corporate entities regardless of any negative impact on the company.
- Running the business into the ground (Target Canada)
- Running the business into the ground while underfunding the company pension (Sears)
- Lobbying for billions of dollars of tax dollars while cutting thousands of jobs (Bombardier, Air Canada)
That's exactly what they didn't do. They laid off 5000 people and got bonuses.
Air Canada/France/whatever is not just a company. It's an important aspect of globalisation and the country whose flag it carries treats it as such. Transformation into a formal corporation is usually a ploy to make it cost effective. And, in many countries, is only partial, often resulting in the worst of both worlds.
The rule existed for the second tranche of aid, which Booking didn't claim.
Nonetheless, this is business as usual.
Booking.com are masters of tax avoidance and I'd guess all of their usual bonuses are essentially covered by Dutch state aid in the form of reduced taxes.
> Het niet uitkeren van bonussen was overigens door het ministerie van Financiën niet als harde eis vastgelegd in de voorwaarden voor de NOW-regeling waar Booking gebruik van maakte. Hoekstra had simpelweg de Kamer laten weten dat het “niet de tijd voor het toekennen en uitkeren van bonussen” is. Wel een harde eis was dat ontvangers van de staatssteun ten minste drie maanden lang niemand mochten ontslaan. Booking hield zich hier exact drie maanden aan, direct erop volgde een reorganisatie waarbij bijna 26.000 mensen hun baan verloren. Dit betrof ook zo’n duizend mensen op het kantoor in Amsterdam, de meesten van hen maakten gebruik van een vrijwillige vertrekregeling.
(Former booking employee here, but not for several years)
But the terms of the deal do not apply retroactively. Moving forwards, under the bailout agreement, executive compensation at Air Canada must be capped at $1 million per year until all government loans are repaid."
The government did cap the salaries, I've not done any super deep research but from the articles I've read, I've not been able to figure out how this was allowed.. except this article that mentions that they're not applied retroactively, and that the payout was because the exec team went without salary. Not totally clear in the Canadian press how the whole thing actually panned out at the end of the day. (fwiw: I didn't post my original comment as an opinion on the situation, only that a similar conversation is happening in the Canadian press. :))
https://www.thestar.com/business/2021/06/01/air-canada-paid-....
Using the lowest paid employee ratio results in companies outsourcing the low pay jobs so that this ratio looks better. For example janitorial jobs.
- if the company is asking for aid or corporate welfare, bonuses for any exec are off the the table. They have to lead by example and take hit, as leaders, before anyone else.
- welfare isn't given to the business directly without strict conditions, and in other ways it is given directly to everyone through payroll.
- the government has the backbone to actually enforce this instead of cowering at the mere sight of money.
It should be harder, almost impossible, for a corporation to receive welfare from the government than an individual person.
- Give aid directly to the employees who need it instead of relying on the trickle down myth - Buy shares to inject capital into companies as a form of financial aid but get something in return for the people who have to pay for it - Never let companies get big enough that a bailout is necessary in the first place - Let businesses fail and get bought by more competent competitors like the market economy doctrine dictates - Prohibit foreign takeovers
And bailing out cruise lines at taxpayer expense was ridiculous.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/19/business/carlos-ghosn-nissan-...
The airline execs, on the other hand, ran a glorified bus service in a year where business was so bad that the government had to give them more money than the IMF loans out to entire countries.
Could you see any union representative on the board of directors voting for executive bonuses after they layoffs over the last year. Until such biases at the BOD level are addresses you will only continue to see similar actions.
But the government didn't do that.
The tax system isn't about paying what you feel you should owe. The government bailed out an entire industry and tried to pay out (somewhat) evenly over it. Why should some of the companies be obligated to forgo that cash just because they handled the pandemic better than their competitors?
I will note that PPP loans in the US are loans, and are only forgiven if you can link the funds to employees' salaries. The percentage of the loan that can be used for owners' salaries is also capped.
Seems like the CFO and executives are worth every cent they are paid.
The solution is to stop giving handouts to corporations with billions in profit, not rely on them to refuse the free money.
https://business.gov.nl/subsidy/corona-crisis-temporary-emer...
Why waste those bonuses on them?
Also, let them write good documentation up to spec so that the next guy can pick up where they left. Surely some long ago shelved away business logic framework gathering dust some place would be a good place to start.
My joke was that we should write an application called a Manager so that (like with calculators and computers) we can tell future generations the story how a Manager use to be a person.
And while we are at it we might as well build a robot to represent the company. A hundred million customers could talk with the boss simultaneously and it could take proper action instantly.
Here's a little bit of background from an article at the start of the pandemic. The company had originally announced that they would cancel bonuses in exchange for government support. They even promised to protect jobs, which they didn't, and laid off around 5000 anyway.
https://www.quotenet.nl/financien/belasting/a27160874/nederl...
Very silly, but it does slightly reduce the prohibitive cost of labour
There are also tax-discounts for large and profitable companies ('innovatiebox') that innovate (companies like ASML, NXP) that Booking.com would probably benefit from too.
I personally saw a respectable Finnish company leeching on government innovation funds, asking employees to log their working hours under a specific project. The kicker - nobody in Finland was working on that project, in reality it was developed in another country.
I don't have those figures either, but at the time I think everybody agreed nobody knew what would happen. Booking.com's revenue might have fallen to close to nil.
The governments position was stated as follows: it was more important to maintain a consistent government than to apply the bonus rule retroactively and without warning.
Seems like the company payback was entirely voluntary and this is an example no good deed going unpunished.
I pointed a non-tech recruiter of ours to HN the other day and she said “that’s a weird looking site”. Yes, yes it is and I like it.
it's perfect
I wish every website followed this rule
In other words, what if HN was a subreddit? There is actually a parallel one already set up: https://www.reddit.com/r/hackernews/
then you have fox news who uses "G" for 1000, as in 1 grand.
The usage of G is just regrettable, although I guess there is a population that does not associate k with thousand. But that’s more of an indictment in lack of adequate education that they would not have experience with sufficient science courses.
I personally find G for grand to make a lot of sense when talking about money. K doesn't make sense because no one says kilodollars. And M is too easily confused for million.
Also, the dollar sign prefix tells you you’re talking about money. And M is for million.
This sounds either lazy or corrupt. There’s no need to retroactively apply the rule, but there are consequences that could be applied in the future, like forbidding companies that used the money for bonuses to apply for other government grants. Doing nothing because it’s “more important to maintain a consistent government” is messed up.
During the announcement of the first support package it was explicitly stated that due to the short time frame they had to operate in, they were taking this risk for the greater good. I believe that in the next support package they immediately made it a lot better w.r.t to abusing support.
Personally I really liked how upfront they were with it.
Rationally, I think that governments should be ok with that as they will pay either way through unemployment or these rescue packages (at least with some industries where no critical supply chains are ripped out), but there would be enormous political pressure to stem job losses.
You are wrong here. The 3rd option is to take money from the investors. The example given in this thread, Lufthansa, the stock holders should have been wiped out. It is called risk.
[0] https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/coronakrise-re...
All 3 are Americans.
https://nltimes.nl/2021/05/28/bookingcom-gives-eu28m-bonuses...
But why not look past the knee jerk reaction?
1) In most cases I'm aware of, after digging deeper, you find out that the state aid is not for the company - it's for the employees. Running a business is no charity and if you have employees that are superfluous due to current market situation you lay them off unless the cost of retraining future employees is higher than paying operating expenses to have employees around that are not working as much as they used to. State aid can affect the decision by offloading expenses to the state, for employment safety.
2) Bonus payouts may be for last year performance and not related to either covid or the state aid at all. Just because you have two large numbers within the same order of magnitude doesn't mean they are related. Bonuses may have been paid of regardless of state aid.
With the no payroll costs, where does that "extra" payroll money that would/should of gone to payroll go? Investors? Executives?
I think people are more mad at the idea that companies that didn’t need aid got aid.
If they sell shares and pay employees, then they're not helping the long-term sustainability of the company and its ability to continue hiring people and paying them.
Paying execs huge bonuses (whether in cash, gold, shares or whatever), while taking huge sums in state aid and laying off thousands of employees is morally despicable behaviour at best.
If they sell shares and pay employees, then they're not helping the long-term sustainability of the company and its ability to continue hiring people and paying them.
Sure, state aid is "for the employees", but in most of these cases: The company obviously could've paid them anyways, since they had this much spare compensation for their rich executives, and that the company continued to benefit from the labor of employees that the government was paying the salaries for.
The government, and by proxy, the taxpayers, end up doubly screwed over, while the corporation gets to continue to enrich itself, and enrich its executives, who are already wealthy.
Rather than give corporations huge blank checks, governments should've sent that money directly to individuals, and allowed corporations to fail or not as per usual. Most of these companies would still exist anyways, since they have plenty of money.
In this case, they changed their own rules regarding bonuses on account of being an exceptional situation and that, apparently, these bonuses were desperately needed. How many of those 25% of people could they have retained if they didn't pay millions in "desperately needed" bonuses (not all were in shares btw)?
The original reporting[1] was fairly detailed with specifics, subsequent reporting left out some that; you know how these things go... There is some nuance here, but it's still leaving a really bad taste in my mouth.
But to be fair, I find it hard to blame just booking.com for this because it's the entire culture that's just rotten IMHO. It's all "free market" this and "no government interference" that but then also "plz government help us" when things go belly-up. When people point out the hypocrisy it's "for the employees, not the company!" True, but misses the larger picture IMO. "Running a business is no charity", well apparently it is because the tax payer will happily get you out of trouble with the "but think of the employees!" emotional blackmail argument only to have them turn around with "free market!!!" a few months later while swimming in their obscene and unnecessary stacks of money.
And to be clear, I'm actually quite in favour of the free market and capitalism (moderated to some degree), but this doesn't strike me as either.
[1]: In Dutch: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2021/05/27/booking-paste-bonusrege...