Why this expert says to fight ransomware, we need to ban cryptocurrency
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- Ransomware
- Pump and dump scams
- Enriching a tiny group of early speculators at the expense of average retail gamblers
- Burning a huge amount of energy
- Wasting a huge amount of processing power and hardware
- Leading to shortages of computer chips
- Enabling Iran etc. to evade sanctions
- Contributing to power blackouts
- Money laundering
- Tax evasion
- Wasting a huge amount of human talent for essentially no purpose
Its necessary to ban the purchase of these coins in the West, for the good of our civilization.
As soon as people could reliably but online, States suddenly grew balls and started legalising...
Also, plenty of us have zero objections to Iran dodging our bullshit sanctions...
If you're upset about miners' the chunk of energy being produced by coal, you should be concerned about coal usage in overall society.
If there's coal-powered electricity is expensive or unavailable for anyone to use, bitcoin miners will automatically stop using it along with the rest of society.
Yes.
>something that cannot be stopped by governments?
No.
I see this as an absolute win.
Just because it has no use for you does not mean it's only bad for the whole society.
As for what they've delivered for society, I admit it's still mostly just limited to speculation, but real promise is now being shown, in the following ways:
* hundreds of millions of people potentially being empowered to earn income by sharing in the revenue their social media content generates, via community currencies, like the /r/CryptoCurrency ERC20 token, Moon [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].
* people living under repressive governments being able to escape their capital controls and survive [6]
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/l9dye7/i_so...
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/kqrikd/sold...
[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/n371id/how_...
[4] https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ly79uw/as_a...
[5] https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/l9bdtn/guys...
No, as long as it has drastic side effects that affect others.
>hundreds of millions of people potentially being empowered
Poe's law strikes here hard.
If the side effect is pollution, then prohibit pollution-emitting energy consumption. Don't use this as a pretense to suppress activities you don't like, by singling those activities you personally don't like, among the innumerable many non-essential activities that consume electricity, for prohibition.
The rest of the effects, like retail gamblers losing money on bad investments, are voluntarily assumed, and could not possibly be worse than state-run lotteries consuming 8% of the poorest households' annual income.
>>Poe's law strikes here hard.
I substantiated my claim with multiple examples.
Before that criminals used WebMoney, eGold, Western Union, etc.
This guy is going to be shocked when he finds out Indian phone scammers regularly get victims to overnight FedEx tens of thousands of dollars in cash and gift cards.
Do you agree that banning it would make the problem smaller?
Yeah sure it will make the problem 'smaller', but do you see the interesting lapse of logic there?
To put it another way: cryptography has many legitimate applications for normal people. Cryptocurrency does not yet (and may never, as long as civilization doesn't collapse).
This is clearly an existing use for normal people. Whether it will gain wider adoption for everyday payment remains to be seen.
More importantly, it doesn't need the civilization to collapse. In fact if civilization were to collapse ain't nobody gonna validate your transaction!
It's a speculative asset. Its value is related to its usefulness only in the minds of its users.
A currency fails if it's deflationary, expensive to transact with, extremely volatile, and unusable for most purchases.
There is currently no use-case for crypto for anyone with a functioning government, and non-functioning governments have mostly banned it.
OK let us pretend Pokécard has some crypographically proven properties that makes it useful as currency.
Pokecard as a coin is speculative only when compared with fiat; one coin is one coin and its value stays in term of its utilities.
Regardless, further reading is usually very useful before forming strong opinion.
(1) I would argue speculative assets is a concrete use case which is a pros, it's for capital gain. Anyway, your speculative-as'a cons argument crumbles as soon as stablecoin is mentioned. Stablecoin is pegged to stable fiat.
(2) Deflation and inflation mechanism of cryptocurrency varies differently on each coin. BTC itself inflationary by nature due to its halving mechanism. Other coins may have same or diffrent approach.
By now I hope you would see the benefit of forming informed opinion: there are a lot types of Pokécard—I mean cryptocurrencies, reading few sentence about BTC does not mean it encompasses all cryptocurrency . ;)
Finally, since you are so obsessed with cryptocurrency as a way to subvert govt: it's only one of use case.
Stellar or Cardano (I forget) aims to be backbone for scalable, and cheap payment network, Ethereum is not only a currency, it has smart contract that allows you execute your program. Those has zero thing to do with a working govt or not.
Crypto has yet to prove that level of value.
Here's a case of PayPal closing the account of a user because they used it to fund servers to run TOR nodes:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/paypal-shuts-down-long...
But, even then, such a ban would probably have a negative effect on cybersecurity progress, since these incidents are motivating fundamental changes to cybersecurity awareness, policies, procedures, and technology.
Crypto has issues in purchasing, mixing, and liquidating.
PS: I wonder if anyone is using gift card networks for money-laundering? The answer is always "yes."
Backup and threat management directly address the main problem. Banning crypto just like you say, deter the payout potential, but it leaves the malware as is.
It's pretty funny when we talk ransomware payment in term of friction—as if we are talking about new payment method user which user will be inconvenienced.
Criminals doing criminal transaction don't care about 'friction', they will grind through any obstacle to move the money.
A criminal group can just hire poor people to make bitcoin exchange and bank accounts under their identities.
They can use other methods to sucker people into working for them.
So yeah criminals can get around most forms of kyc either through id theft or by employing „volunteers“.
1. Crypto makes it easier to transfer money without govt regulation.
2. Crypto does not make it easier for criminals to transfer money without govt regulation.
How can #1 be true and #2 be false?
No one is saying crime was impossible before crypto, just that it was more difficult and expensive (sometimes prohibitively so).
Maybe we should ban _paying_ the ransoms instead?
It also sounds like how many countries handle drugs, where possession is criminalised but somehow the consumption of drugs doesn't decrease.
Shouldn't we be talking about what actually works?
1) Ransom-ware criminals -- they are already breaking the law and are subject to criminal enforcement 2) Irresponsible businesses who fail to secure their critical systems 3) Hardware and software vendors who don't care enough about security because #2 doesn't care 4) Presumably innocent cryptocurrency users
Banning paying ransoms adjusts the incentives for #1, #2, and #3 in beneficial ways and leaves #4 alone.
I realize this wouldn't work in practice, so it's not really a serious proposal.
That seems like an appeal to authority!
Someone pays their research grants jobs etc. That someone has a central banking system to preserve.
To fight poor people saving to escape de-facto slavery, we need to ban paper money.
To fight flatulence, we shall ban vegetables.
To fight ransoms, we need to ban cash, gold and diamonds.
This is absolutely absurd in its reckless narrowmindedness. My previous comment on cryptocurrency and ransomware:
But some of these comments are beyond understanding.
But cryptocurrency in its current form has failed to deliver. It's the closest thing we have to trustless digital money, but it's still quite far. But should we give up on it entirely?
If cryptocurrency gets banned now then that's it. No chance for improvements to be made. We're stuck with either bank money or government money for the foreseeable future. It will be just like the war on drugs which halted all medical research into drugs which are probably very useful. I don't think that would be a good thing. It would just give more power to banks.