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Genuine question. Who in their right mind has/wants more than 10 or 20 direct reports? Any more than that seems like absolute chaos.

Most I ever had was 8. When it got larger than that I had people step up to active leadership roles. Eventually they did the same.

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Depends on the nature of the work.

In a tech workplace 20 is probably a real handful.

There are plenty of teams at Amazon which could be significantly larger than that. How many employees do you think they have in every warehouse, and how many managers? ;)

True. :) There is definitely a difference in how Amazon scales management for warehouses. Elsewhere, it's "everyone a leader".

My first true corporate experience was with big-four Deloitte. The culture there is "up or out". May sound sketchy to outsiders but it was actually a really supportive environment.

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