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This is phone only share. Accounting for non-phone use, it's not even close, android is still behind.

iPodTouches are very popular replacements for gaming platforms for children/young adults (crowding out the nintendo DS), and there is the iPad, while blackberry/android tablets aren't doing well (Galaxy tab had a 16% return rate).

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As others already pointed out, this article is specifically about smartphone market share in the US.

But I'll be sure to mark down on my timeline of knee-jerk reactions that the debate is now about total OS install base across any category of device. I guess it's time to cross the "only on one carrier" argument off; I haven't heard that one in a few months.

Not to be too obvious but that would be why the article has the word SmartPhone in its title as it's discussing phone share only, not general mobile device market.

This is just a side note, but how many non-tablet devices do you see sporting Android or BlackBerry OS?

Just saying in this case comparing only within the confines of the phone market share makes perfect sense.

"Android Pummels Apple and Blackberry in Smartphone Supremacy Race" is a bit disingenuous when you look at periods when apple did not release a new phone (when most of their sales occur) nor compare the actual platform (iOS) which all three providers now have a tablet form of (Playbook, Honeycomb, iPad).

I find it histrionic and misleading. It's saying "Guy murdered in knife fight" to find out the one guy walked up and stabbed him during a short afternoon nap, and oh, he's not dead, just still in bed.

Verizon started carrying the iPhone in February, so there was a fair bit of time till this data was compiled. I'd be surprised if there's a change in direction the next time data is released.

Accounting for non-phone use, it's not even close, android is still behind.

That sounds reasonable, but do you have any sources?

Granted, it's a figure from Apple, but at WWDC, they touted iOS as having 44% mobile OS market compared to Android's 28%.

Samsung lawsuit forced disclosure of iPodTouch sales http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/04/19/apples_samsung...

Even first day iPad sales blow through http://allthingsd.com/20100405/apple-300000-ipads-sold-on-fi...

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/03/02Apple-Launches-iPa...

etc.

The only market share numbers I've seen recently that included non-phone devices were straight from Apple (so feel free to take it with a grain of salt if you'd like). They have iOS at 44%, with Android at 28%.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/06/ios-number-one-mo...

Wow, that is a lot closer than I thought, considering how many cheap iPod touches Apple sells.

StatCounter has mobile browser usage (which includes all iOS devices)[1]:

Symbian: ~33% (it's big in Asia, and still has a large installed base)

iOS: ~20%

Android: ~18%

BB: ~12%

Note that this is only browser usage, which obviously doesn't correspond to total sales well. Symbian is still way ahead of anything else in that measure.

[1] http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201006-20110...

I bet Apple prefers to sell $649 phones over $229 iPods.

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