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I don't like the removal of tab separators. Now all the background tabs kind of merge into one large mega tab :( for example - https://i.ibb.co/p4LWvtb/2021-06-01-19-12-43-3841x169.png

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The lack of tab separators and the poor contrast between the tab bar and the rest of the chrome are my biggest issues. Chrome has both tab separators and higher contrast between the tab section and the rest. And of course, the old Firefox design also has tab separators and very high contrast.

You mean like this? https://abload.de/img/tabp1jaa.png

One of my biggest complaints about Firefox is how much work I have to do in my userChrome.css to make it look nice. My current one is almost 400 lines and it's mostly adding separators/element padding, changing border radiuses and disabling hover and focus styles.

Same. Mine is similarly large [1], with lots of legacy/dead code and comments. Increasingly ceasing to be fun to maintain.

OTOH, the only other browser that lets you tweak its chrome with your CSS is AFAIK Vivaldi.

[1] https://gist.github.com/myfonj/f5415dd0580663a82ea18407ef2ee...

Mind sharing yours? Prior to this update I'd been hobbling along but my productivity is taking a hit.

I just use MaterialFox (https://github.com/muckSponge/MaterialFox), which makes Firefox look more or less like Chrome: https://i.imgur.com/gYwrGjK.png

Edit: Welp, the new Firefox update kinda broke MaterialFox: https://i.imgur.com/biLz0e2.png

All that being said, just using the new UI out of the box actually looks great to me too: https://i.imgur.com/WUaiRUV.png

I never wanted a carbon copy of Chrome, just something that looked good, so I'm glad to see Firefox provide a nicer default experience and add its own unique style. It's actually pretty similar to MaterialFox anyway, aside from the "floating" tab style and slightly higher vertical space usage.

That seems like it should be at least a customizable setting and IMO on by default. Let’s hope the HN thread full of people pointing it out helps.

Themes have control over how it looks. You can search, test, and install one directly within Firefox.

Not really, theme is currently only allowed to alter css variables(basically colors). There is a special type addon that do allow to alter the browser theme directly (behave like userChrome.css). But that requires addon signing from mozilla and enable certain hidden control in about:config. Basically not likely done by a general user.

that and the container highlight has moved to the top of the tab. On windows 10, i am having a difficult time identifying which tabs are in a container and which are not...

I'm having similar difficulty on macOS.

The favicons separate tabs clearly enough for me.

Do they? https://i.imgur.com/Oemlwfo.png

Hm, your tabs don't have favicons. I can still clearly differentiate tabs because of the spacing, though I guess if you had a lot of tabs with very minimal spacing, you might get some visual ambiguity.

Personally, the previous design was fine and this one is too. Neither has made any meaningful difference to my user experience.

Edit:

Scratch that. I've just noticed that tabs can now have a sort of status line, telling me, for example, that's it's playing something. There was functionality sort of like this before, but this is a nice improvement. Great.

https://i.imgur.com/p6DQ7gK.png

>Hm, your tabs don't have favicons.

No, this website doesnt have favicons. I have a dozen other domains bookmarked that don't have favicons.

Favioli is a good solution to this problem https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/favioli/

This addon looks good, but I'm too tired to have to relearn new locations of elements, differences in UI, changes in context menus every 1.5 year Mozilla decided to improve shit. I've been using Firefox since Phoenix 2002, but this time I'm giving up. Moved all to Brave Browser.

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