Absolutely nothing human that is hypersonic can do that from a dead stop hover without a really unsubtle plume of rocket exhaust.
Also the people who said it was hovering:
1. Were at what like 20,000 feet? Until one of them flew down toward it and it disappeared… almost like his sonic boom caused it to disintegrate and melt into thin air, hmm. I mean what does that… could it be… ice?
2. Had zero experience seeing anything like this. Zero.
3. Also said it was moving with no discernible trajectory.
4. Said it looked like when you dropped your cell phone in the kitchen and it bounces around while falling. (Sounds more and more to me like this white, cold object was a falling slab of ice from an icy object that fell from space. Tumbling and flitting as it fell.)
5. Did not have the presence of mind… I mean, come on… to turn on their helmet cameras. Sure there may have been adrenaline in the picture but you don’t get to say the high level of training gives them credibility while also seeing that their training did not adequately kick in here.
6. (one of them) described himself as “the class clown.”
7. (the class clown) was best buddies (quote: he was at my wedding) with one of the people who work on the FLIR software which means that their buddy could be in a position to have some fun.
8. Stated that it seemed from the spot of whitecaps below them that there might be some object just under the water… almost as though some other ice slabs had, just prior, landed in the water after descending from outer space on a ballistic trajectory that was seen on radar.
And a slab of falling ice is 1) not hot and 2) does not fall in a straight line.
So I like the falling slab of ice theory.
The conclusion that it was hypersonic came from pilots with no experience with this sort of thing and from a video of a system losing lock on an object that it was tracking. When that happens, the object can rapidly flit off screen making it appear, to the prepared mind (meaning a mind that wants to see UFOs) that is is suddenly going fast.
>the navy is perfectly capable
Bless their hearts, but these are people who apparently are:
- incapable of releasing the raw radar data as actual data
- incapable of using cell phone cameras while on board a ship, even at the highest levels where rules against cell phones could be overridden, and
- incapable of mounting so much as a single working dashcam on their ship in the year 2020.
Ice???? They were seeing and tracking levitating and maneuvering swarms of ice tic tacs for month visually and on radar. Are you sure? This is nuts.
3 is false. It clearly went nose toward him, then started matching his spiral down with a spiral up.
1 is false. It didn't disintegrate at ocean surface, it vanished after spiraling up toward him and jamming radar.
Then reappeared later at the designated rendezvous point.
Maybe it is made of ice. But that's smart, intelligence, possibly alien ice with advanced propulsion. So you didn't really prove anything with the ridiculous ice claim. Please do better.
I accept that the FLIR locks jumps might contribute to perceived movement. Fair enough. But USS Omaha tracking these things vectoring on radar is not an artefact.
- incapable of using cell phone cameras while on board a ship, even at the highest levels where rules against cell phones could be overridden, and
This is false. There are videos released from Navy aviators recorded using cell phones.
I agree with you that quality of video is pathetic. But it's good enough I suppose to bring us all here today to argue about it which is pretty sad I guess
That's not what he said on Lex Fridman podcast. It was more like days. But that is according to the radar which was created by his buddy who could have been trolling him knowing he was going to be in the area.
>3 is false. It clearly went nose toward him, then started matching his spiral down with a spiral up.
I think the nose and the spiral are details you added. I think it "came up" in the same sense that someone might say "the ground came up to meet me" when they describe the perception they might have when landing with a parachute or when diving steeply in an airplane. Not necessarily that it was flying upward.
His perception may very well have been that it was flying upward. But again, he has zero experience with whatever this was, and his brain is used to seeing flying, powered, maneuvering objects, so his brain is fitting the data it sees to that preconceived experience, and not thinking about a falling slab of ice. So in this way his experience was actually working against him understanding what he was seeing.
>1 is false. It didn't disintegrate at ocean surface, it vanished after spiraling up toward him and jamming radar.
I never said it was at the surface though. Yes it vanished, we all agree on that. Can't speak to the jamming but I don't recall him mentioning that. In any case it could have been his radar buddy trolling him, I don't see any reason not to keep that possibility in play.
>Then reappeared later at the designated rendezvous point.
His good buddy who went to his wedding was trolling him. Or the radar operator was in on it and also trolling him.
>There are videos released from Navy aviators recorded using cell phones.
There was a series of incidents last summer (2020) with supposedly 3 days of drone sightings.
Not one video. (If you disagree, please provide links.)
They even anticipated more sightings on day 3 and intentionally, deliberately, with planning, brought in a camera crew with, inexplicably, a single camera apparently and what did they film? They pointed the camera down onto the radar screen while they claim the things were buzzing the ships outside. The resulting footage is so fuzzy you can't even make out the text on the radar screen.
While this was going on for three nights, we are to believe that not one single navy person walked outside on the deck or looked through a porthole and took even one single video of the drones that were swarming the ship… or, if they did, their discipline is so good that none of the videos have ever been posted.
Color me skeptical.
Or they're just small close objects moving much less violently. Don't discount the "bug on the lens"