Show HN: Paperd.ink – Open-source e-paper development board
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It was too hard to launch a hardware product on a shoestring budget dealing with way too many issues amidst the pandemic. But thanks to the HN community, we got a great response last year on our prototype which gave us confidence to move forward!
Looks very promising, congrats on launching.
It would be really cool to mill the same design out of wood. An alternative design could be stackable layers of wood & plastic, similar to the RPi “zebra” cases.
It's really not fit for this calendar / todo list use-case. It's not possible to get much information density on a 400x300 two-tone display. No anti-aliasing or hinting on the fonts, for example. So you either need great eyesight or very few todos :)
The rotating images keep me entertained during the workday.
I've been thinking of buying Inkplate[0], but international shipping of electronics in India is a gamble, so paperd looks neat
[0]: https://inkplate.io/
https://shop.m5stack.com/collections/m5-core/products/m5pape...
I've seen another supplier selling them, but like 30 or 40% more expensive, for more than 100$.
I think it's not possible to buy it anymore.
With a few modifications I bet you can very easily port their source to a much larger and sensible display, should you be so inclined.
What’s the situation here?
It looks like none of the buying options include the display, just the board or board and enclosure. Is the display on the back side? Just not pictured or listed?
If it has to be purchased separately, it’s not called out either and there’s no reference to which display to buy on the indigogo page.
3–4 days on a 2000mAH battery means over 20mAH per hour. You say deep sleep uses <20μA, which would be under 0.1% of the total here, so we can call that rounding error and just focus on the time when it’s actively doing something. Assume it wakes up every hour, takes 12 seconds to connect, fetch and render, before returning to deep sleep. 20mAH in 12 seconds is 6 amps. I’m not familiar with the actual power consumption figures, but https://lastminuteengineers.com/esp32-sleep-modes-power-cons... suggests an ESP32 chip with everything on is using up to about 260mA, and I seem to recall hearing that e-ink displays used a few milliwatts, but it’s hard to find details. All up, my extremely rough estimates are coming to active consumption more like 300mA, not 6A—so more like three months than three days.
(I haven’t been careful with the voltages in these calculations, but my impression is that you’re looking at about 3.3–3.6V on the battery and ESP32 chip. I think the 300mA is probably fairly significantly on the high side, since most of the system won’t be in use for all of that nominal 12 seconds. But I caution you again that I’m not competent in this field; I’m just a layman that thinks the numbers didn’t add up.
While I’m talking: why do most of these things, especially the batteries, cite current figures rather than power figures? Is there a genuine reason, or is it some kind of historical mistake, or something else?)
I agree it's not so helpful in practice; I think though it's because they're a store of charge, N electrons = capacity in Coulombs, and 1C = 1As (by definition) or more familiarly 1/3600 Ah.
This is true load or no load, so from C (As) and V (= J/C) you know the charge stored and the rate of depletion.
Maybe the real error is not Ah instead of Wh, but V instead of J, since the former will drop off non-linearly (in practice) under load and while draining, or with temperature; whereas I think J & C independently 'when new' would give a better picture, or at least one that will more obviously change over the life of the battery?
E-papers have a slow refresh rate, it takes about 5 seconds to display a completely new image. And considering it takes about 15 seconds to connect and download an image (based on network speed), we get current spikes upto 300-400mA during WiFi transfer. We can expect conservatively a 1-1.5 months life from a 2000mAh battery.
The mAh unit enables us to compare batteries easier I believe. Standard LiPo are 3.7V so given a mAh rating its easier to know which will last longer. While for a Wh unit you would have to calculate it.
If I put something like this in my bathroom, where it could be exposed to freckles of water droplets and humidity often, how concerned do I need to be of a malfunction that could be disastrous (such as starting a fire when I'm out of the home)?
WaveShare sells up to 13'' color e-paper displays. Go big or go home. The rest can be supplied by an ESP32 or a RPI, there's no need to invent (expensive) hot water here.
Unfortunately Indiegogo/Kickstarter type funding makes this a non-starter for me.
On a larger note, I wish products would explicitly state it’s in a crowdfunding stage instead of misleading people and them only finding out when they scroll to the very bottom of the page.
You can get an e paper hat for a raspberry pi zero and accomplish the same thing.