Ask HN: Do we need password confirmation input?

I'm writing stuff about UX/UI.

I made a card that says that we do not need password confirmation fields in sign up forms.

My arguments:

- If the user typed it wrong, you should have password recovery page

- You also have show/hide password icon

- Often users have password managers

- If the user types password first time, he will probably copy-paste in in the second field? Well, some percent of users do that

- And we also have social sign up

So, basically, I think the less fields we have - the better.

But I met some critique regarding this approach.

So I'm gathering pros / cons that I'll put in an article later.

Thoughts?