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berlin?? everyone is leaving berlin. It's the worst place to do business in. it has been mismanaged for decades now. crime rate is high. public schools are a disaster. if you are 20 something you might find the dirt and parties hip, but as soon as you have a family it's the worst place you could think of (unless you have a lot of money). for a tech company better cities are munich and hamburg if you really want to relocate your business into a country with high taxation and burdening regulations...have fun.

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Hamburg and Munich are among the most expensive places in Europe. Living costs in Berlin are probably half (you can rent a place for under 200 EUR if you wnat). There is also a much better startup and developer scene. So if you are into the whole startup thing, Berlin is pretty great.

And the crime rate, schools, ... compared to the US? Really? ;)

so tylee78: where did you get the information that everybody is leaving berlin? what kind of people you are talking about? it seems you haven't read the article. berlin is booming. every week two new startups are launching. berlin has two airports from where you can get to every other destination on this planet. berlin has several good universities and huge amount of young talented people. even academics from the best universities in germany (whu, ebs, hhl, mannheim etc.) and even from the U.S. (e.g. Research Gate - forunder moved from harvard to berlin) are moving to this city, because it is a perfect environment to create a new company on a low level of costs.

berlin isn't more dirty than hamburg or munich. berlin is just a huge city, where some parts are of course dirty, but it is the same for munich, hamburg, new york and san francisco too. berlin is the place to be in europe, if you want to setup a tech startup. if you care more about other things, you really shouldn't start a tech startup.

When you're doing a startup, chances are that a huge part of your team will be 20-somethings who love the Berlin dirt and parties.

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