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Would love some sources on that, because that would be a big issue. Russians regularly fly in international airspace along the Norwegian coast and are intercepted there by Norwegian fighters, but I have never heard about them actually violating Norwegian airspace. This is the closest I know of:

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2019/02/11-russia...

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It's happened a couple of times to Sweden which while not in NATO is in EU (and is generally considered a close ally to NATO).

Sources in Swedish:

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/tre-ryska-militarflygplan...

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/expressen-ryskt-stridsfly...

You can find tons of data on that on Google, maybe not Norway but EU airspace. It happens about once a day.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/russian-aircraft-violate-eur...

Headline: "NATO says Russian aircraft violated European airspace nearly 300 times in 2019"

Article: "NATO jets intercepted Russian planes flying close to NATO airspace nearly 300 times in 2019, an alliance official said"

These do not mean the same thing.

thank you. and to take this analysis a step further, claims of borders are also not static or a-political. (c.f. Kashmir). Wikipedia keeps a list of these [0]. On the other side of Asia, China makes a larger claim of maritime territory than the US recognizes...and the US Navy regularly sales through those waters [1].

I would encourage people to make a 2 by 2 matrix for soem perspective. Pick two country's...on one axis and put both on there as the 'violated' border and the 'violator' on the other. write headlines for all four boxes.

and to be clear to anyone not reading the parent. The headline and article wearywanderer mentions are literal quotes. The headline is the headline, and the quote from the article is literally the first sentence. They don't match as a factual matter.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-says-us-warship-il...

PRC took part in negotiating UNCLOS from 1973 to 1982, and ratified in 1996. They recognized the territories of other countries when they ratified it.

There are more sources that are more explicit about crossing into the airspace.

- https://news.err.ee/1608203641/russian-aircraft-violates-est... - https://euobserver.com/tickers/126198

etc...

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