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Rescue Mission for Sci-Hub and Open Science: We are the library - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27154266 - May 2021 (52 comments)
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This model will break. A treshold is reached, scientists revolt.
A similar case, recently, in Europe popped up in football / soccer. Supporters and players defy the creation of a Superleague focused on higher profits for a select few.
Profit-seeking eats the world. A healthy regulation is needed. People first, profit next would be a sustainable trade-off.
I wouldn't be surprised if abolishing copyright meant a more vibrant music and film industry; with more indie producers and less mega labels and producers.
First and formost because scientists are forced by contract to transfer their IP right of the publication to the publishing company if they want to publish there.
> if abolishing copyright meant a more vibrant music and film industry
Copyright as such was originally a good idea and was intended to provide authors with an income. But it has been corrupted over time like so many things (e.g. patent law) so that today the artists and authors benefit the least. Big publishing companies and collecting societies profit the most. So it's not copyright that needs to be abolished, but the opportunities for abuse.
- authors can publish in any journal they choose, including open access journals
- author choose to publish in Elsivier journals because of the prestige (hence Elsiviers curation and impact factor is what people pay for)
- so basically authors want to publish in prestigious journals, but don’t want to pay for it, but aren’t willing to sidestep those same journals and publish in open access journals
Seems like the problem is not Elsivier but the institutions that demand they publish in high impact journals?
Even for well-established researchers who are not themselves dependent on publishing track-record, there will most often be junior researchers on the team who are.
Not if they want to have their academic jobs and get grant funding for their research. The entities that have sweetheart deals with companies like Elsevier aren't scientists; they're universities and governments. And universities and governments control academic jobs and grant funding.
The real fix is for it to be required by law that any research that was funded by government grants must be published with open access.
How much do publishers really need to do their job well? Just pass that law and you'll quickly find out by way of the fees charged to publish.
And it seems odd for the solution to be “force Elsivier to make articles free”. That’s like saying “Harvard and Stanford have the most prestigious degrees, but they charge too much, so the only fair thing to do is to force them to make it free”.
Seems to me the main problem is universities place too much emphasis on these “high impact” journals when it comes to career progression. Measure performance a different way and the problem is solved.
But, everybody doesn’t want to let go of what they get out of it, they want everyone else to give up their benefits.
Researchers - love the prestige of getting published in Science, hate that their articles aren’t freely available to other scientists (want their cake and eat it too). Could publish in open access journals but don’t want to take a hit in “impact factor” (first mover disadvantage).
Universities - love that someone else gets to judge the performance of their researchers rather than them. Hate that they spend tens of millions on access, but hard to say “publish in Science but we won’t pay for access” (cake and eat it too)
Journals - love the fact they can get fantastic papers submitted, and free peer review solely because of the prestige built up over decades/centuries. Want to charge the “willingness to pay” price for the prestige they bring, but cant justify the price versus cost of publication.
If you think the cost of a subscription is high for universities, which have huge endowments that are invested in all kinds of assets (I have seen it commented that major universities in the US are really hedge funds that happen to do teaching and research on the side), imagine what it's like for individuals with no academic affiliation who just want to see what their tax money is actually funding.
In other words, the "sweetheart deal" is being able to afford the subscription at all, given that in practice open access does not happen.
Then why call it a “deal”?
Because compared to what an ordinary taxpayer gets, it is. And that's the relevant comparison since ordinary taxpayers are the ones ultimately paying for the research.
It basically is already. In the US, if you produce a peer-reviewed paper resulting from federal funding you must provide "Public Access". Each agency has their own way of implementing it. For example, a publication funded by NIH must be uploaded to pubmed.
Search for Public access policy and agency name.
Perhaps it says that on paper, but in practice it is not enforced in many areas. Published papers funded with government grants are behind paywalls; data and computer code are routinely not archived in a publicly accessible location. The example you give, PubMed, is actually the exception, not the rule, in practice.
Perhaps I should have said "required by law, which is actually enforced".
What they have is the only prestigious journal in a field.
That’s like saying Apple has a monopoly on laptops.
They do have a monopoly on MacOS computers, some software requires to run on MacOS, in such cases users have no choice at all.
Elsevier is not responsible for changing this, the "customers" are. Individual researchers are just the puppets in this play. The institutions and funding agencies that pull their strings are the "customers" that could require something different and change the system to whatever they were willing to pay for.
These "customers" should be pressured from every direction to require open access. Any particular business practice by Elsevier is ultimately irrelevant. The customers will get something different when they pay for something different.
If the customers (institutions and agencies that pay) demanded that the end product be put online with no paywall, someone (Elsevier or their replacement) will quote a price for whatever preparation service was required (filtering for quality? management of peer review? editing? graphics?) PLUS hosting, and the "customers" could pay for that, find another provider, or do it themselves or in a consortium. They are the ones who need to change.
They are holding decades of resources hostage, unless Universities remove their subscriptions nothing is going to change.
> They are the ones who need to change.
The problem is most researchers don't want to deal with change, they just don't have time to deal with that.
But they sill serve as reference for how many papers someone published and how often someone gets referenced. The reputation of the journal is relevant as well. I think this worsens the replication crisis.
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