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Most likely not. WWDC is for software announcements, mainly the new iOS and macOS versions, and I don't believe new hardware has even been presented (this is not true, see edit).

EDIT: I was wrong an hardware has indeed been presented at WWDC before. I still believe, however, that a new M1 16" MacBook Pro isn't a WWDC-worthy announcement and will likely be announced in October.

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This is not true, Apple doesn't announce hardware at every WWDC but it's not uncommon. In 2019 they announced the updated Mac Pro and the Pro Display XDR. In 2017 they announced updates to the iMac, Macbook, Macbook Pro, iPad Pro, and HomePod.

> and I don't believe new hardware has even been presented.

I cant remember whom it was, but someone, an influencer or KOL on twitter or a blog started this "no new hardware has ever been presented in WWDC" madness and it has been spreading like plague ever since.

Mac Pro, Pro Display in 2019, MacBook Pro 2017, iPhone 3G and 4, and MacBook Pro 2009.

Other similar false statements were M1 has integrated memory ( For the 999th times it does not ) and AirPod were sold at cost ( this one is from Gruber ).

The “integrated memory” comes from confusion on the “unified memory” architecture. Unified just means shared by the CPU and GPU cores, but it doesn’t have to be integrated. Alas, many journalists probably wouldn’t know or understand that.

Not that it's a foolproof indicator for this year but new hardware has absolutely been announced at WWDC. The iPhone 3G is the one that immediately comes to mind but it's far from the only one. I'm pretty sure new Macbooks have been included before.

You're right! In fact, the last iPhone to be revealed at a WWDC was the iPhone 4 in 2010.

And boy was that a release! (discounting for Antennagate) Edit: And the terrible home button

The iPhone 4 was my favorite "new iPhone", if that makes any sense. The screen was amazing for the time!

The iPhone 4 gave birth to front facing camera as we know it. That was practically nonexistent on any other phone at the time.

Wasn’t the 4 the first one with a “retina” screen? That was revolutionary at the time. Today, we take for granted high pixel density phones, but if you compared a 3GS to the new 4, it was mind blowing.

Yes, it was the first one with a retina screen. The change from the 3GS to the 4 was amazing. Also, the overall design was much slimmer. It seemed like a huge upgrade. Most of the upgrades since have felt much more incremental.

The M1 devkti was presented.

The AppleTV devkit was presented.

Some upgrades are presented.

It makes a lot of sense to present "pro" hardware to developers

Many many models of macs and iPads have been announced at WWDC keynotes. Including the iMac Pro and the original Mac Pro.

You're right in general, but I do remember Mac Pro being announced at WWDC.

Isn't WWDC where "one more thing" came to be?

I believe Mac Pro was introduced at WWDC to be released at “Fall”.

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