> You’re going to need to show me the RFC(s) that specifically mention bounce tracking is for the convenience of marketers.
Perhaps re-read "jusssi"'s comment then mine. I didn't assert that bounce tracking was for the convenience of marketers, or suggest it was mentioned in any way in the RFC's, they implicitly did and I wanted to point out the error in their understanding.
> SMTP seems a particularly bad example if you...etc
But the central theme of this whole HN discussion thread is about SMTP.
If you're interested, sections 6 of RFC5321[0] are where bounce messages are mentioned (just three times in the whole RFC - bouncing, bounced and bounce) with no reference to marketers. See also 6.1:
Some delivery failures after the message is accepted by SMTP will be unavoidable. For example, it may be impossible for the receiving SMTP server to validate all the delivery addresses in RCPT command(s) due to a "soft" domain system error, because the target is a mailing list (see earlier discussion of RCPT), or because the server is acting as a relay and has no immediate access to the delivering system.
Which brings us back to my original comment, far above, that services that check once if an email address is "valid" using trumail.io or whatever when upon form filling are flawed solutions.
[0]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5321