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Why did you use quotes?

the plane technically had to land in austria after all other countries refused entry for 'technical' reasons.

This one involved KGB agents who coerced the flight to divert by claiming there was a bomb

what was the basis and the motive for ally countries unilaterally not to allow the plane to land? If the motives are not different, then the fighter jet could be seen as a similar "technical reason" in this case too.

Mental gymnastic you are doing there. Spain and France denied the airspace, meaning the flight couldn't gone through either of them. There is no "not to allow the plane to land". In fact an airplane calling emergency has priority to land anywhere, regardless of the political difference with the host country.

On this topic, this happened with a flight from a US's air base in Afghanistan, rerouted to Iran because of a "bureaucratic issue":

[0] - https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-iran-aircraft/u-s-says-p...

> Mental gymnastic you are doing there.

Quite contrary, I'm asking for the basis and the motive of denying one specific flight with one specific individual on board a routine procedure of air travel, something that was allowed to hundreds of other flights on that same day. "landing" vs "airspace" is a non-essential detail here, and depending on the context of a situation, either could be denied to achieve the desired goal. I'm asking about the motives of the goal.

It was US pressure obviously, for which the countries apologized. It was an asshole move by the US but this is on another level, it involves foreign civilians, KGB agents, fake bomb threats and fighter jets

> It was an asshole move by the US but this is on another level, it involves foreign civilians, KGB agents, fake bomb threats and fighter jets

no doubt, when force is the standard a murderer wins over a pickpocket. And then it escalates.

I would say the Morales grounding was worse because it also infringed on the immunity of states of head on top of grounding a plane.

It uncovered international political coercion to catch dissidents and that sets a much more troubling precedents.

Aside from pragmatism, is there any ethical reason why state leaders should enjoy extra rights above anyone else?

it didn't even "have" to land in austtria, they landed there because it was easy. They probably had fuel enough to land in any one of a ton of other countries if they so chose.

No, they certainly didn't have to land in Austria. But somehow, god knows why, certain countries closed their airspace for that specific plane. I'm inclined to belive that more countries would suddenly close their airspace too if plane chose not to land in Austria but to go to some country where Snowden won't be in danger of being arrested - France, Spain, Portugal and Italy are hardly the only one that would bow under US pressure.

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