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"19 year olds on twitter unhappy" is a ridiculous and unnecessary angle to add to this story.

Why's that? 18 year olds are graduating secondary education this summer and now they have more money to spend in a society that's rapidly opening up. 19 year olds graduated last year, possibly the worst time to do so (especially given the strict lockdown in France), and they get nothing. Life obviously isn't fair but I can't help but feel for the 19 year olds.

What they should have done is a $300 culture pass for the entire society to celebrate opening back up. If anybody should be open to such an idea it should be France.

Not the same budget.

That's more or less what is happening in Europe as an incentive to economy, I think in Italy freelancers got about 1000 euros from the state

Everyone who did not get this likely would have liked to, that's not informative criticism. That nineteen year olds had it rough last year has basically nothing to do with the article.

Can you not see that they only just missed out on it? I don't think any 45 year olds are going to be miffed that they didn't get it when they were 18.

Of course I can, I don't find it newsworthy.

Yeah, the 18 year olds today are way luckier than the 19 year olds today, and this culture pass seems to add insult to injury.

Imagine how I feel having been the last compulsory army draft for my country.

I really wish the go to for everything hoi polloi wasn't Twitter. Twitter encourages trite, mean, and outrageous content, it's not going to have much of a variety of views that get any attention.

It infects anything.

I was listening to a podcast about my local sports team and they couldn't help but reference what they're 'not saying' relative to Twitter outrage ... repeatedly. And even address 'fan sentiment' purely through the looking glass of Twitter.

They talk about players who 'fans don't like' and yet you go to the game and you'd think that was the most popular player based on fan reaction...

Then I switch to my coding related podcast ... same thing, they address Twitter drama like it represents most coders.

It actually makes sense because during the covid crisis, there's been huge issues with student poverty (post high school). So giving out 300€ for 18 years old to buy video games when 1 year older students struggle hard to make ends meet is not taken well by some.

A 1 time 300 bucks given to all the students with a scholarship would be way more appreciated than 300 bucks given to all the 18 years old without distinction.

Reminds me of the student loan forgiveness nonsense in the US now days. We’re supposed to forgive one generation’s debt, but not another’s.

Yeah student loan forgiveness is a terrible idea. They should just be made dischargable after 10 years.

I've had it with the "they will immediately discharge the debt after graduation" meme. Yes, just add a delay and let them rot on the streets if they are that cheap. If people can't repay their student loans within 10 years then it was a bad deal to begin with.

Hot take: public schools

In what way?

Also don't forgive debt or lost opportunity incurred by people of the same generation who were more frugal and careful.

Or better yet. Sue your school for a refund. Why make the rest of us pay with our tax dollars?

Hypothetically, even if we did collectively bail out a bunch of liberal arts majors, I would still want to see an extensive shuttering of half the country’s higher education institutions for hoodwinking so many people out of their time and money.

Even more ridiculous when you know that the 19 year old of 2021 were 18 year old in 2020 and they could get 500 euros with the very same "pass culture". So it's really hard to see while they would be unhappy.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200521225211/https://pass.cult...

Edit: in 2020 the pass was not available in the whole country.

Wasn't there something going on in 2020 that closed all the cinemas and that?

After accessing the program, one has two years to spend the money, so up to 2022 for people who got it in 2020.

Ah. I wish I'd fully investigated more before commenting then, what I said was silly

Polling Twitter for gripes is the easiest possible angle to add to a story, since the journalists are already on Twitter 14 hours a day anyway.

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