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Is this 200k donation going to force IDF to stop bombing children ? If yes then they will gladly do it but if not then the problem lies elsewhere. Stop this nonsense about somehow Israel for all their misdeeds and war crimes should be given a free pass because they were subject to same or even more war crimes half a century ago ?

So they are doing to others what was done to them, and yet if anyone speaks "hh", that person us called a Holocaust denier. Ignoring the Holocaust they are engaged in TODAY. Yesterday or a day before, some actress was shamed by official Israel account when she spoke for Palestine cause. What? What kind of bs is this?

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1st step should be to eliminate Hamas.

How are they going to disappear when they're embedded in the population which isn't exactly spread out. Which isn't gonna push them out themselves when they're being ethnically cleansed from their home in many places.

Israel helped nurture the Hamas of today to deal with the PLO/Fatah but regardless of whether they expected it to become what it did they won't bomb it out of existence.

Maybe israel should stop with its apartheid policies in the first place and stop murdering children and stop expanding settlements and take responsibility of the crimes against humanity they have carried out over last 50 odd years and let Palestinians back into their homes. Maybe then there wont be a need for Hamas

If you mean let Palestinians back into their homes as opening up Israel the you are essentially destroying Israel is a state.

So the existence of "Israel as a state" depends on Palestinians not living like humans on their own lands. Wow. That is some top level bs.

I need to ask you, how about a bully takes over your home, throws you out on the street and cries self defense if you fight back. What do you do? I am asking you in particular.

No, I was assuming you were pushing for a “right of return” to Israel.

you didnt answer my question

The nazis are mostly gone from Germany now, it’s possible.

Germany is still a country now. With fixed borders too. Germans didn't get pushed out over many years in some quest for lebensraum by Russia or so.

I wouldn’t call east Germany a real country.

So Hamas was "invented" in 1987. What about before that? Who was the enemy of IDF that demanded their creation, their need to pursue apartheid against Palestinians ?

So assume Hamas winds down operations today, will IDF stop their bombings, stop settlements? Stop murdering children? Stop violating UN resolutions on war crimes and crimes against humanity and their expansion plan into occupied territories? Will Israel give back Palestinians the land they forcefully took from them since 1947?

Where does Hamas even come into the picture you baffoon

That would be unreasonable, why would Israel compromise if they don't have any pressure whatsoever, international or internal. Especially with the current right wing dominance of politics in Israel and the foolish attempts at slow annexation of the West Bank.

The Palestinian's interests is into keeping and nurturing a strong resistance until there is a real support from the USA for a reasonable peace process.

> because they were subject to same or even more war crimes half a century ago

The lesson of the 20th century was "you won't demonize, oppress, chase away or murder a population" but it seems about half of the people got their brains overfitted and what they've learned is just "you won't demonize, oppress, chase away or murder the Jews, but with everybody else is just fine".

Yes. Because Israel is the aggressor, they have a right to defend themselves against any protest against their aggression and that protest is an act of terror, because the aggressor is Israel.

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